why no spire pointed .22lr?

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there is the v-max in .17 and .22mag, but why is there no .22 hyper velocity BTSP ammo for .22lr? for accuracy sake i think it would be neat to have a nice point on a .22, possibly even a plastic ballistic tip. is there a reason? im certainly no .22lr expert so maybe it would be pointless for all i know... but i like pointy bullets.
 
I'm definitely no expert, but my guess would be that similar to lever action centre-fires, there are a lot of old tube fed 22s out there, and manufacturers are afraid of accidental discharges. Wasn't until Hornady started the LeverRevolution line that we got pointed bullets (a la polymer tips) for calibres like 45-70, 30-30 and 444.

I agree- would be nice to see...the 17 ammo just looks so much more superior when held up to a 22lr.
 
The front end of the bullet has far less effect on potential accuracy than the tail. The largest element determining accuracy with with the rim fire cartridges is bullet pull, mostly determined by the crimp.
While a pointed bullet might look "cool" it would offer no practical advantage.
 
the reason i see a potential benefit for it is if you look at the difference in accuracy between regular .22 mag and v-max .22mag. i think it would certainly help with the higher velocity .22lr loads like velocitors and such. also utilizing a boat tail design.
 
I'm definitely no expert, but my guess would be that similar to lever action centre-fires, there are a lot of old tube fed 22s out there, and manufacturers are afraid of accidental discharges
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Ummm . . . that doesn't have any effect on rimfires, since the priming is around the outside, ie - the rim.

The front end of the bullet has far less effect on potential accuracy than the tail. The largest element determining accuracy with with the rim fire cartridges is bullet pull, mostly determined by the crimp.
While a pointed bullet might look "cool" it would offer no practical advantage.
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Not true at all. Check out the differences in BC of triple-shok X-bullets with and without the polymer tip. With the tip, the BC goes up noticeably. That being said, there is going to be very VERY little difference within the max 100 yards (more likely 60) that most .22 lr is used in. Also, the base of the bullet doesn't have much effect until ranges become rather long-ish, like past 500. 2 main reasons that you won't see bullets like that on the venerable old .22 lr is: 1) the case uses a heeled bullet, rather than a bullet that fits entirely within the case as in all the others. Trying to make double-diameter, heeled, boat-tailed, polymer-tipped spitzer bullet in any sort of reasonable cost is basically impossible, which leads to 2) it is far too expensive, and .22 lr has reasonable cost as its largest check in the 'pro' column. Your basic top-shelf .22 lr target ammo that people use for competition costs about the same as a standard box of .17 hmr which people use to hunt with. The low cost is its niche market, and it leaves the high-performance mostly to the .22 WMR's, .17 HMR's, and possibly even the .17 M2's.
 
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Ummm . . . that doesn't have any effect on rimfires, since the priming is around the outside, ie - the rim.



Not true at all. Check out the differences in BC of triple-shok X-bullets with and without the polymer tip. With the tip, the BC goes up noticeably. That being said, there is going to be very VERY little difference within the max 100 yards (more likely 60) that most .22 lr is used in. Also, the base of the bullet doesn't have much effect until ranges become rather long-ish, like past 500. 2 main reasons that you won't see bullets like that on the venerable old .22 lr is: 1) the case uses a heeled bullet, rather than a bullet that fits entirely within the case as in all the others. Trying to make double-diameter, heeled, boat-tailed, polymer-tipped spitzer bullet in any sort of reasonable cost is basically impossible, which leads to 2) it is far too expensive, and .22 lr has reasonable cost as its largest check in the 'pro' column. Your basic top-shelf .22 lr target ammo that people use for competition costs about the same as a standard box of .17 hmr which people use to hunt with. The low cost is its niche market, and it leaves the high-performance mostly to the .22 WMR's, .17 HMR's, and possibly even the .17 M2's.
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thank you, thats exactly the answer i was looking for.
 
I lead with "I'm no expert"...apparently I should have lead with drunk and brain-fried instead. Not sure what I was thinking with my tube magazine comments - that's what spending the weekend with your inlaws visiting from out of town will do to your reasoning and common sense...that and hiding in the basement seeking consolation in one of Mr. Keith's elixer's after another...which I'm going to return to now.
 
I talked to one of CCI rep's at the shot show about this ,cause it's been bugging me for a while. Simple economics, not enought gain for extra cost.I still havn't given thought.
 
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