Why not a 325 WSM??

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After alot of research, and the fact i need a new higher power rifle I seem to be leanin towards the 325.

It shoots flat enough it has lots of energy for bigger game, brass can or could be made from 300wsm, bullets man there is barnes, swift so no shotage of reloadin components

It has less recoil than a 338 wm and is new..so what but coolness factor.

Ok and You say what for....I hunt northern bc...sparwood ie elk on the Flathead river.. I put in for grizz tags too. hey even might try for a Alaskan moose hunt..so yea I want a little power.

But hey ever since I made up my mind everyone it seems eveyone thinks this cartrige is gonna die.

Is it worth it or ???

ps.. my next bolt gun is a 1964 rem 700 adl 7mm.mag it has served me well but in a tight spot I might want more firepower if I am going after big bears, bison,elk and moose.
 
It is backed by Winchester,so it will probably do OK.
If it was a Remington idea, I would be a bit concerned.
Remember the 5mm Rem, the 8mm Rem Mag, the E-tronix primers, and probably a few others.
 
Wilson said:
After alot of research, and the fact i need a new higher power rifle I seem to be leanin towards the 325.

It shoots flat enough it has lots of energy for bigger game, brass can or could be made from 300wsm, bullets man there is barnes, swift so no shotage of reloadin components

It has less recoil than a 338 wm and is new..so what but coolness factor.

Ok and You say what for....I hunt northern bc...sparwood ie elk on the Flathead river.. I put in for grizz tags too. hey even might try for a Alaskan moose hunt..so yea I want a little power.

But hey ever since I made up my mind everyone it seems eveyone thinks this cartrige is gonna die.

Is it worth it or ???

ps.. my next bolt gun is a 1964 rem 700 adl 7mm.mag it has served me well but in a tight spot I might want more firepower if I am going after big bears, bison,elk and moose.
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I'm going to buy one - just trying to find one in a Kimber.
 
I say, go for it! Worse case scenario, if it does fall off the mainstream cartridge train...who cares...you can still handload for it and the coolness facter will be increased.:cool:
 
I read Dave scovill had a kimber made...he leant it to Boddington..said it was great on eland..Boddington said the 220 gr. Swift A frame worked good on a big brown..last months magazine.

So why all the bad news...seems most here throw it in the next to be obsolete pile????
 
My *question* rather than criticism of the 325 is and has always been- Is the slight increase in bullet diameter going to do anything different than a .300? I doubt it...SO I don't see the point that much..

However, that is for me. And I have a nice shiny custom 300WSM, so I don't think I woud buy one.

If I did not have the 300WSM, I'd be sorely tempted. Tehre are lots of good bullets for the 8mm these days, and there will never be an issue findign brass...;)
 
Don't forget about the 200g accubond.

I have two 8x57's and have shot the accubond out of both. Even smacked down a deer with one this year.

I think that you would realy be better off with a 338, higer sectonal density and better balistic coeficents for the average (common) weight bullets. Just load it down a bit if you need to reduce recoil. I shot 2 bears and one moose with 225g Partitions at only 2650fps out of mine (most accurate load), works good. Also the 338 will last for a long time.

The 325 is not even correct it is a 323 you bone heads. They only called it a 325 so people would not think it was an 8 mill. The name screams stupid marketing. BTW I want one too :D
 
Gatehouse said:
My *question* rather than criticism of the 325 is and has always been- Is the slight increase in bullet diameter going to do anything different than a .300? I doubt it...SO I don't see the point that much..

However, that is for me. And I have a nice shiny custom 300WSM, so I don't think I woud buy one.

If I did not have the 300WSM, I'd be sorely tempted. Tehre are lots of good bullets for the 8mm these days, and there will never be an issue findign brass...;)
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But is this not the same reason people rebarell 30-06 to 338-06???
 
Saw a really nice Winchester RMEF Super Grade in .325 at Wholesale over the holidays. If I wasn't saving for Africa I'd be thinking seriously about it.
 
Wilson said:
But is this not the same reason people rebarell 30-06 to 338-06???
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I think the differnece between 30 cal and 338 is signifigant, more so than the difference between 30 cal and 8mm, which I don't think is a big difference...:)
 
Gatehouse said:
I think the differnece between 30 cal and 338 is signifigant, more so than the difference between 30 cal and 8mm, which I don't think is a big difference...:)
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Geez one yr. in camp I almost #### cuzz everyone told me the 7mm.mag was responsible fro more wounded animals than any other cartridge..he said i should use my back-up riflechambered in 30-06:eek: a .16 diff:rolleyes:

So what do ballistics say???
 
As a previous owner of a 338WM, I can tell you that they are an amazing killer. I can't compare to the 300, because I have yet to use one, but given the choice, I'd go with the 338 every time. It's damn near as effective as a 375, and doesn't burn anywhere near the powder. Wide choice of bullets, and all of them work.
 
200fps faster then a .338-06 with simmilar weight bullets.....

the .325wsm was lost on me. I went with the .338-06 :p

if you want a big thumper go to the .375H&H. the .325 just gets lost in the middle someplace...
 
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Wilson said:
Geez one yr. in camp I almost #### cuzz everyone told me the 7mm.mag was responsible fro more wounded animals than any other cartridge..he said i should use my back-up riflechambered in 30-06:eek: a .16 diff:rolleyes:

So what do ballistics say???
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I agree with Gatehouse, i almost bought one but opted for a 338WM no comparison especially if he is talking alaska, grizzly hunting you can get up to 250gr. pointed bullets instead of 220gr doing the same speed. My 338 does'nt recoil much more than my 7mm mag. I am not knocking the 325WM but it is closer to a 300WSM than a 338WM in comparison. You can find heavier bullets for a 338 (300gr)but not a 325. For the 7mm wounding more animals you obviously have people using a gun they can't handle because if you have proper shot placement a 7mm with 160-175gr can handle anything with the exception of the big bears (A little small in my opinion but again proper shot placement it can be done with this cal. also). You also have more 7mm. mags. out there than any other magnum so the odds of having it wound more animals is going to be greater, and the hunters using them have to make better judgement in their shots that is why animals are wounded and not recovered it has nothing to do with that calibre.
 
JohnC said:
Ruger is now offering it's stainless Frontier M77 (16.5" barrel, scout mount available) in .325 WSM.

If you want a light and handy bolt action for bear, moose & elk, there it is.
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wow, think of the recoil, muzzle blast, and velocity loss from that package. might as well be chambered in 8x57....
 
Amphibious said:
wow, think of the recoil, muzzle blast, and velocity loss from that package. might as well be chambered in 8x57....
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The velocity loss is about 250 FPS relative to a 26 inch barreled rifle- In my 300WSM Frontier I get 2700 to 2750 FPS with a 180 grain bullet vs 3000+ FPS in a 26 inch 300 winmag- so about 30-06 levels in a much smaller and handier package.

Recoil is definitely there but not as bad as a .338. But yes especially with max loads it may not suitable for everybody.
 
> But hey ever since I made up my mind everyone it seems eveyone thinks this >cartrige is gonna die.

>Is it worth it or ???

who cares if it is going to die --- you have already established that you can make or obtain the components easily. You don't sound like someone who shoots factory ammo so the only concern of the cartridge dying is if you want to shoot with a group of others with the same cartridge.

cheers mooncoon
 
Wilson said:
But is this not the same reason people rebarell 30-06 to 338-06???
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I think gatehouise's point is that it is the same reason nobody re-barrels their 30-06 to 8mm-06
 
I juggled the 2 this summer and bought the 338 WM. The ammo bullet reloading selection got me, can make your cases from any WM case if needed and velocities can be equaled between the 2 with the advantage to the 338 in Energy. I don't think there is a wrong Pick of the 2 however, the 338s got a few years of development on the WSM.
Not saying someday I would not Concider the 325 WSM,
 
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