why pistols 4 sale have 400 rounds fired
- Thread starter Spydr
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I bought an XD40, put 300 rounds through it on 2 occasions, realized that the takedown lever beat the hell out of the end of my thumb on recoil, and sold it...
I just bought a USP. It may stay with me, or if I find it isn't comfortable to shoot, bye bye.
I just bought a USP. It may stay with me, or if I find it isn't comfortable to shoot, bye bye.
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- Grande Prairie, Alberta
I know a guy with 4 hand guns all bought new he might have 400 rounds total on all 4 Hes my best friend, he just does not shoot offten and dam him he wont sell yet
The whole thing boils down to whether you're a shooter and/or a collector and to what degree of each. Imagine someone who has fired a gun, but only once. This individual is a "1" on a scale of 0 to 100 for being a shooter. Has never even contemplated owning a gun = "0" on the collector scale.
At the opposite end of the shooter scale (a "100" on the scale) is a battle hardened veteran who fired hundreds of thousands of rounds in battle, came home after the war and shot competitively most of his life, except when he was shooting up a storm testing guns for articles he writes in magasines. He may have never owned any of the guns he used during his whole life = "0" on the collector scale also.
On the Collector scale, you could own only one gun (which you may not even have fired if you're a "0" on the shooter scale) and you're a "1" on the collector scale. Like it or not, you're in the gun market.
At the other end of the scale, would be someone with a massive gun collection spanning centuries of the industry, containing exquisite examples of the finest craftmanship (and some of the worst crap ever foisted on an unsuspecting public). This person can potentially never have fired a gun = a "0" on the shooter scale. They could just as easily be the guy who rated a 100 on the shooter scale, or anywhere in between.
This may be easier to visualize on a graph with the shooters on one axis and the collectors on the other, and any given individual's "Score", if you will, landing anywhere in the graph including on one of the axis.
The point of this is that each of us has different considerations and different priorities for those considerations. Case in point - the reloader. Wants to know how mant times his brass has been reloaded. The collector places value on provenance - the "history" of the gun. That's why I'll pay you more for Jesse Jame's Colt than I will for your brand new gun.
Total, complete provenance is knowing everything there is to know about the gun, still having the original box, retaining all of the bills of sale from all of the owners since the first (obviously knowing who all the owners were), knowing significant events about some or all of the owners, etc, etc, - you get the drift.
I have guns that I will never fire, nor will anybody I sell them to (or will them to). You'd have to be a fool to fire them. The reduction in value from just cutting the factory tie would be in the order of 10 - 20%!! I also have guns that I bought knowing full well that I'll never fire them, but not because they're precious. These guns I bought because they're good guns and they were being sold at far less than their market value. I like them well enough, if I had to rely on them during a home invasion, they'd get used. But, realistically, I bought them to make a few bucks to pay for my sport and pass on a good deal to someone else.
Some guns I own are crossovers. They're fine handcrafted examples of the makers' art and they get more valuable every day, but they're also shooters - I want to experience first hand the pleasure of hunting with these superbly balanced and beautifully finished pieces. These are shooters, investments, and collectors all rolled into one. I have a responsibility to treat them with respect and hand them down to future generations in the same condition as when entrusted to me, but I reserve the right to pleasure the piece even as it pleasures me.
Then there's the trap guns and the pistols for the range and the hard-wearing hunters. These are basicly shooters. Some might appreciate, some will depreciate, and over all they'll keep up with inflation. These get fired alot.
So you see, individuals can be anywhere on the shooter-collector spectrum, and so can their guns. That's why another shooter's behaviour with a particular gun can seem goofy at times, sometimes they record details or talk about aspects that don't seem important or worthwhile.
What are you in it for? The shooting? The collecting? The investment? Security? The knowledge and the skill? The outdoors? The friends you make? Your principals? Your politics? The primal urge to stomp things that move and eat them? The unparalleled high of the hunt? Or all of the above, like me?
At the opposite end of the shooter scale (a "100" on the scale) is a battle hardened veteran who fired hundreds of thousands of rounds in battle, came home after the war and shot competitively most of his life, except when he was shooting up a storm testing guns for articles he writes in magasines. He may have never owned any of the guns he used during his whole life = "0" on the collector scale also.
On the Collector scale, you could own only one gun (which you may not even have fired if you're a "0" on the shooter scale) and you're a "1" on the collector scale. Like it or not, you're in the gun market.
At the other end of the scale, would be someone with a massive gun collection spanning centuries of the industry, containing exquisite examples of the finest craftmanship (and some of the worst crap ever foisted on an unsuspecting public). This person can potentially never have fired a gun = a "0" on the shooter scale. They could just as easily be the guy who rated a 100 on the shooter scale, or anywhere in between.
This may be easier to visualize on a graph with the shooters on one axis and the collectors on the other, and any given individual's "Score", if you will, landing anywhere in the graph including on one of the axis.
The point of this is that each of us has different considerations and different priorities for those considerations. Case in point - the reloader. Wants to know how mant times his brass has been reloaded. The collector places value on provenance - the "history" of the gun. That's why I'll pay you more for Jesse Jame's Colt than I will for your brand new gun.
Total, complete provenance is knowing everything there is to know about the gun, still having the original box, retaining all of the bills of sale from all of the owners since the first (obviously knowing who all the owners were), knowing significant events about some or all of the owners, etc, etc, - you get the drift.
I have guns that I will never fire, nor will anybody I sell them to (or will them to). You'd have to be a fool to fire them. The reduction in value from just cutting the factory tie would be in the order of 10 - 20%!! I also have guns that I bought knowing full well that I'll never fire them, but not because they're precious. These guns I bought because they're good guns and they were being sold at far less than their market value. I like them well enough, if I had to rely on them during a home invasion, they'd get used. But, realistically, I bought them to make a few bucks to pay for my sport and pass on a good deal to someone else.
Some guns I own are crossovers. They're fine handcrafted examples of the makers' art and they get more valuable every day, but they're also shooters - I want to experience first hand the pleasure of hunting with these superbly balanced and beautifully finished pieces. These are shooters, investments, and collectors all rolled into one. I have a responsibility to treat them with respect and hand them down to future generations in the same condition as when entrusted to me, but I reserve the right to pleasure the piece even as it pleasures me.
Then there's the trap guns and the pistols for the range and the hard-wearing hunters. These are basicly shooters. Some might appreciate, some will depreciate, and over all they'll keep up with inflation. These get fired alot.
So you see, individuals can be anywhere on the shooter-collector spectrum, and so can their guns. That's why another shooter's behaviour with a particular gun can seem goofy at times, sometimes they record details or talk about aspects that don't seem important or worthwhile.
What are you in it for? The shooting? The collecting? The investment? Security? The knowledge and the skill? The outdoors? The friends you make? Your principals? Your politics? The primal urge to stomp things that move and eat them? The unparalleled high of the hunt? Or all of the above, like me?
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