Why Proper Bedding is Important?

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I get asked this question alot so made up homebrew videos to demonstrate why proper bedding is so important.

As it came from the factory.

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Notice the wear lines on the bottom of the receiver.

This is what you call drop in inletting. Note that the recoil lug doesn't actually touch anything when the action is bolted together. Pity the action bolts. And YES, the customer complained about flyers.


After proper bedding

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Leveled, supported, SOLID.

That will certainly go a long ways to making the rifle more consistent and accurate.

Jerry
 
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no. that is normal and noting factory actually comes bedded. Bedding is an actual mold to pacific rifle action and barrel. Some rifles like the R700 5R and savage accustock are performance made, but still not a full "bedded" rifle stock.


Good videos.
 
Open up the action bolt holes and full bed the action with "electrical tape" clearance on the front and sides of the recoil lug? I usually do the shank of the barrel as well or the first inch on a Remington taper. Sure makes things more consistant.
 
rem338win said:
Open up the action bolt holes and full bed the action with "electrical tape" clearance on the front and sides of the recoil lug? I usually do the shank of the barrel as well or the first inch on a Remington taper. Sure makes things more consistant.
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Any clearance around the lug negates the purpose of bedding. This is the part that must control ALL recoil movement. The rest of the action is just along for the ride.

I bed for an interference fit around the lug which is why the rifle feels solid and will not rattle around as shown in the 2nd video even without the action bolts installed.

It is more work so some suggest taping to make it easier to extract from the stock.

A little rattle is just as bad as a big rattle.

Jerry
 
TheUnprofesional said:
Would that have not been a warranty issue a new rifle being that loose if it was listed as being bedded?
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Absolutely nothing "wrong" with this high end big name V block stock.

This is the way they are produced, sold and promoted for precision shooting. There were other issues in the install but that is beyond the scope of this discussion.

One of the big reasons why I suggest precision shooters take the time to examine their rifles to see what they actually bought and what needs to be improved.

At the end, there is nothing wrong with the Rem and it shoots very well. It just needed the fitting and TLC to bring it to full potential.

It is like asking the worlds fastest runner to use a shoe 3 sizes too big. I sincerely doubt he will perform at his best.

And "tying" the laces tighter, isn't a solution.

YMMV.

Jerry
 
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And what the bedding looks like...

Jerry
 
Not sure what "thick bedding" is refering to.

See pic of finished job. The lug is completely surrounded and the barrel is supported in front of the receiver.

The more you can support the action, the better.

Jerry
 
so how are you getting bedding compound so thick in some areas? are you taping the barrel, so it rides a little on the tang and the tape on the barrel, in the barrel channel.
 
Mystic Precision said:
Not sure what "thick bedding" is refering to.

See pic of finished job. The lug is completely surrounded and the barrel is supported in front of the receiver.

The more you can support the action, the better.

Jerry
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Sorry. Thick wasn't the right word. But you answered me.

Bed in recoil lug completely and as much of action as possible. Check!
 
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noneck180 said:
so how are you getting bedding compound so thick in some areas? are you taping the barrel, so it rides a little on the tang and the tape on the barrel, in the barrel channel.
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It is all in the prep work to ensure the action is level and will fit properly.

Sometimes, the bedding is so wonky, you have to build up the base to make things fit right.

Jerry
 
Great post Jerry.

So simple but so valuable. I don't understand why someone would shell out large money for a stock and say, "this one doesn't need bedding". I put 50 rounds through my new toy with the AICS before I bedded it and the rub marks were obvious. Small but obvious. :eek:

Thanks Jerry

Paul

Ps, I'll order the trigger next week.
 
Mystic Precision said:
Absolutely nothing "wrong" with this high end big name V block stock.

This is the way they are produced, sold and promoted for precision shooting. There were other issues in the install but that is beyond the scope of this discussion.

One of the big reasons why I suggest precision shooters take the time to examine their rifles to see what they actually bought and what needs to be improved.

At the end, there is nothing wrong with the Rem and it shoots very well. It just needed the fitting and TLC to bring it to full potential.

It is like asking the worlds fastest runner to use a shoe 3 sizes too big. I sincerely doubt he will perform at his best.

And "tying" the laces tighter, isn't a solution.

YMMV.

Jerry
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thanks for reply. I was in market for a remington 5r so nice to hear some info on it. Sounds like its still a good bet
 
If I may include myself in this conversation, here is how I keep mine leveled.

First the Devcon is applied on the pillar and in the stock

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And when I press it I make sure the top of the stock is leveled in the vise, and I take a small level on the top of the scope base.

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Works good

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I have a MDT TAC21 with a rem SA 700 action any tips on bedding this set-up! Definitely needs it I see the rub marks and the inconsistency with groupings. So any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
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