Why so much hate on the savage 64!

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I have a rem 597 hb but now looking to get the savage 64 fv sr. Any help or advice would be great. Yes I know the 10/22 has more options but don't want to be one of those guys that follows the crowd like everyone else. Some advice and thoughts would surely help.
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I had the TR SR ( same gun minus different stock ) and well the 64 design isn't the best. To remove the bolt you need to remove the barrel. The finish on them was very rough, Bluing was lacking, Also I didn't find it that accurate.
 
No clue there was hate for it...

I have a savage 64F and a lakefield 64, although they dont get used anymore, they are accurate little plinkers. Cleaning them is a pain in the butt because of what have been mentionned about removing the barrel to get the bolt.
 
if all I had was a savage 64, i could get better accuracy by throwing rocks at whatever i was aiming at!! In my experience just about anything is better then a 64.
 
Another vote for marlin. Model 795 if you prefer detachable mags or a model 60 with a tubeular mag. I will never sell mine, it's a laser. Reliable if you clean 'em too.
 
Many semi auto designs have come and gone. This one is hanging on longer than it should have in my opinion. I like them but if Savage were to compete they will need to come up with a better design. Maybe converting the A17 to a standard blow back rather than a delayed and chambering it for the 22lr.
 
The savage 64 F are decent shooters in the realm of semi auto 22 rifles. Not as pretty and some others - but they need to be cared for from the onset of ownership to produce the best groups. In my experience it's important to clean the barrel regularly. Especially, when they are new. A lot of plinkers overlook the need to keep a new or used rifle clean. It's not necessary to totally dis-assemble the rifle to do a cleaning. So a plastic bore brush, and a one piece rod, and some bore cleaner, patches, oil, (brake cleaner) are in themselves important cleaning accessories that gives a gun a chance to reach and maintain it's accuracy potential, This begins - from the onset of ownership. I know this because I have owned the 64 F the 597 and the 10-22. They will all provide better accuracy and reliability if one establishes a regular cleaning regime with those rifles - and all rifles; from beginning to end.

I'll offer an explanation as to why this is a good practice to establish with all semi auto 22 rifles. First off a lot of rounds are likely to be put down the barrel because a lot of people like to shoot targets etc and take them out for small game. If the cleaning regime is not established early on the little black ring will appear and this gets baked on the lands and grooves - and over time. it will get longer. It's starts as something that resembles a "life saver" candy size ring and gets longer and longer down the barrel. eventually it creates problems and robs the barrel of producing accuracy. If the barrel is cleaned from the onset of ownership this is less likely to happen. And yea, it's involves some time - but not as much as one may think it would. A new shooter ought to be taught these things as an important part of gun use and ownership. It becomes a life long habit - for the better - in the long run.

Some may wonder how this happens when 22 loads are considered light when it is compared to rounds that carry higher powder loads. But keep in mind that there is the powder burning, the primer burning and small pieces of the primer, lead and brass that can stick to the throat of the barrel. If the cleaning is ignored - then the issues begin to arise and shooters feel a sense of disappointment because they have lost accuracy. So if the bore is kept clean it will stay in better shape over the long haul of ownership and use. Not too difficult to do and the cleaning aspect is as important as finding that "secret ammo combination" that makes the rifle fun to shoot - and keeps the shooter in the game.
 
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I shot a cooey 22 semi when i was a kid. To this day i hate any 22 that looks like it. Like the savage 64. I just remember lots of jamming and poor accuracy pot metal mags and cheap crap in general. And hating. One of those never again things. I suppose with more maintenance you could get in to shoot more reliably. But at some level hate is irrational. And the cooey bolt actions were far better 22s.
 
Well looks like it may be another 597 purchase. I have never had a problem with the one I have now, except for the wife wanting to use it all the time now. I let her try my rifles next thing I know she seems to claim them. Good for me I guess. Another rem 597 hb to be ordered this week I guess. Unless somebody can show me another semi auto that won't break the bank!
 
Well looks like it may be another 597 purchase. I have never had a problem with the one I have now, except for the wife wanting to use it all the time now. I let her try my rifles next thing I know she seems to claim them. Good for me I guess. Another rem 597 hb to be ordered this week I guess. Unless somebody can show me another semi auto that won't break the bank!
Marlin 795 or 795ss, 60
 
Well looks like it may be another 597 purchase. I have never had a problem with the one I have now, except for the wife wanting to use it all the time now. I let her try my rifles next thing I know she seems to claim them. Good for me I guess. Another rem 597 hb to be ordered this week I guess. Unless somebody can show me another semi auto that won't break the bank!
Marlin 795. Done.
 
The Marlin 795 is a pretty good choice, as is the 10/22 (there is a reason it has lots of fans).
Also if you want something different, the norinco jw-20 is pretty decent. very cheap, reliable, accurate and very light.

Do you have some reason that only a semi 22 will do? There are many good choices out there.
 
I actually sourced out a Savage 64F a couple weeks ago! All because I owned a Lakefield 64B as a kid. I loved that gun and knew how to make it shoot as good as I could. So with my new 64F I just received last week I completely stripped it, debured, & polished the extractor, firing pin, & bolt. The new springs for the trigger will be here this week. They are great little guns if you look after them!!!

I will not put a scope on mine though. Open sights only in my opinion for a 64....
 
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