Why the 1911 is the greatest pistol ever made

misanthropist said:
I'm 100% confident the author is only half serious, and that this is an intentional mix of knowledge about the design, and humour.
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JMB fanboys aren't on the leading edge when it comes to recognizing hyperbole much less satire.

The 1911 is my favourite semi-auto pistol and I've owned a couple. Like most JMB designs it is quite complex and has been bypassed by more modern pistols. Great fun to shoot and while it once was the "greatest pistol ever made" that day has passed long ago.
 
Claybuster said:
JMB fanboys aren't on the leading edge when it comes to recognizing hyperbole much less satire.

The 1911 is my favourite semi-auto pistol and I've owned a couple. Like most JMB designs it is quite complex and has been bypassed by more modern pistols. Great fun to shoot and while it once was the "greatest pistol ever made" that day has passed long ago.
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Personally I think it's team Gaston that struggles the most with the complexity of gun humour, as evidenced by the people actually attempting to refute points in this article as though it is a serious technical review.

I haven't seen anyone take on the claim that the 1911 grip is patterned after the handshake of John Wayne yet...could someone look up the dates and conclusively demonstrate that this claim is incorrect?

I assure everyone the author is well aware of the shortcomings of the 1911 and is joking around about his love for an archaic platform.
 
Local said:
The 1911 is only popular thanks to our American Friends. The design was dumped and reworked by JMB immediately after it was adopted. The article itself is a childish piece full of inaccurate information and reeks of classic 1911 fanboy dribble. Beautiful guns yes, historical, for sure. Far from "The greatest pistol ever made".

Local
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I bet you're the life of the party - tax accountant, or under taker? Either way, learn to laugh, it'll get you through the tough stuff.
 
misanthropist said:
Personally I think it's team Gaston that struggles the most with the complexity of gun humour, as evidenced by the people actually attempting to refute points in this article as though it is a serious technical review.

I haven't seen anyone take on the claim that the 1911 grip is patterned after the handshake of John Wayne yet...could someone look up the dates and conclusively demonstrate that this claim is incorrect?

I assure everyone the author is well aware of the shortcomings of the 1911 and is joking around about his love for an archaic platform.
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the grip thing is NOT serious- the pistol was designed in 1895/1900 as a result of the earlier "shortcomings " of that pistol, ie reliability lack of a slide stip and safety- some of these were addressed in the 1902 model, which continued until 1927- the 1905 model was probablyh the first to use the 45 acp cartridge but still used the double lock in the slide- one fore, and one aft- the grip angle thing can be seen back as far as the 1902 model, with a greater pronouncement on the 1905 and the greatest 0n 1911-now considering Morrison or wayne or whatever you call him didn't show until 1907, he would have hardly been in a position to influence the grip angle at age 4-
 
Cranky Pants said:
There has been a hundred years for something head and shoulders better to replace it and be considered the best pistol and yet the 1911 is still selling in droves.

I'd say JM Browning hit it out of the park with that one.
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That is because anyone can make one... If it were a free for all on Glock clones there would be many more.

The only benefit of a 1911 is an 80% lower. Eventually I will make one, I like the idea of no serial number or maker marks (100% legal here. )
 
Excellent, thank you. I'm so glad that was properly debunked.

Now if someone could take on the claim that they're made out of metal, like Steel Panther, that'd finish it.

I mean are Steel Panther actually metal? Sure, they present themselves as a heavy metal band, but isn't it a joke? Are they really faux-metal?

Or wait, are they made of organic material? They're human beings! This is a trick!

This writer is some kind of shyster, certainly.
 
misanthropist said:
Personally I think it's team Gaston that struggles the most with the complexity of gun humour, as evidenced by the people actually attempting to refute points in this article as though it is a serious technical review.

I haven't seen anyone take on the claim that the 1911 grip is patterned after the handshake of John Wayne yet...could someone look up the dates and conclusively demonstrate that this claim is incorrect?

I assure everyone the author is well aware of the shortcomings of the 1911 and is joking around about his love for an archaic platform.
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enefgee said:
I bet you're the life of the party - tax accountant, or under taker? Either way, learn to laugh, it'll get you through the tough stuff.
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The problem with a so called review like this is that people take it as gospel. It's publishings like this that perpetuate the many myths about firearms.

Enefgee, I'm not interested in idle banter and bs-ing that is often the order of the day at parties. ;)
Local
 
cornelunc said:
1911 is the best for people born in North America. As European I have no interest in it. I love Beretta and CZ 75 platform.
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I have a pretty mixed bag of semi auto handguns, CZ TS (40S & W), (Sig 226 9mm), Ruger (1911), Pardini (9mm GT), Browning 22, Tokarev (1911 variation). Used the Hi Power in my military days. I really like the 1911 and would take it over a Hi Power the trigger on the Hi Power sucks. My $900 1911 is a very close second to my $3,000 Pardini as my favourite handgun. There is just something more to a 1911 than the sum of its parts. Yes it is old in design, yes it is not quite a reliable as my 226, yes it is not quite as accurate and the trigger is not quite as good as my Pardini BUT it is really close on all those things plus it fits perfectly, is easy and comfortable to shoot well and it looks so damn good and it has SOUL.

Long live the 1911.
 
I got spanked for lipping off to that doofus on the Navy SEALs thread (and probably rightfully so) - but in my own defence and to redeem myself - I submit that I am a pious and devoted acolyte of St. Browning and Cooper, and my personal integrity is beyond disputation! I never wipe my arse on the drapes, I don't fart on crowded elevators, and lies and alcohol never pass my lips. So it is that when I say that the 1911 is the best auto on the face of the planet - you can set your watch and warrant to it!

But - when the devil tempts me - he usually puts one of those CZ75's in my hands. And may the saints have mercy on my eternal soul - sometimes in my darkest moments I am shamed to admit I am tempted. But, so far, thanks be to God - my soul and reputation remain as pure as the driven snow.

Sheesh, what's that awful reeking stink going on here in the forum??? I am strongly tempted to complain to the management about it!!!! What a stench!!!!!
 
Sure, the 9mm is like the minimum wage of bullets: if you go any smaller, you’re shooting a .380, which doesn’t even hurt if you get hit with it.

The author should take this challenge on
 
Local said:
The 1911 is only popular thanks to our American Friends. The design was dumped and reworked by JMB immediately after it was adopted. The article itself is a childish piece full of inaccurate information and reeks of classic 1911 fanboy dribble. Beautiful guns yes, historical, for sure. Far from "The greatest pistol ever made".

Local
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I think you're taking the article a little too seriously and being way too harsh on the author. The final part about the upcoming article on how not owning 10mm makes you a Communist was a tip off as to the seriousness of the article.
I only own Glocks, but I still enjoyed the article. I appreciate 1911, and like shooting them. Also, the 1911's of years past had looser tolerances than ones of today, which may explain some reliability issues.
I'm still sticking to my plastic guns, though.

Still alive said:
I'm with Local.
A 1911 is a beautiful gun. I've shot many over 30 years and have owned them. But I've not had many that finished a shooting season without some issue. I think JBM did not intend 1911s to be race guns and have the tight tolerances that 100 yrs worth of advancements have put into them. That's probably why Norc 1911s work well. They aren't as tight as a N. American gun.

Glocks, on the other hand, just work. Four guys just finished a session yesterday with Gen 2-4 Glocks shooting over 1000rds of Wolf Ammo. ZERO issues with function and accuracy.
I don't think 4 tuned 1911s can say the same. Possible...but unlikely.
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Agreed.
 
misanthropist said:
Excellent, thank you. I'm so glad that was properly debunked.

Now if someone could take on the claim that they're made out of metal, like Steel Panther, that'd finish it.

I mean are Steel Panther actually metal? Sure, they present themselves as a heavy metal band, but isn't it a joke? Are they really faux-metal?

Or wait, are they made of organic material? They're human beings! This is a trick!

This writer is some kind of shyster, certainly.
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.... and the best part is the SP dudes can actually play their instruments very well behind all the silly parody humor. :rockOn:
 
If 'imitation' is the sincerest form of flattery.....the 1911 has it...don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Cz fanboy....but the 1911 must be by any reasonable standard...the most imitated design ever....Moses browning was indeed a genius....jmho.
 
Import said:
If 'imitation' is the sincerest form of flattery.....the 1911 has it...don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Cz fanboy....but the 1911 must be by any reasonable standard...the most imitated design ever....Moses browning was indeed a genius....jmho.
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Only makes sense, seeing as the 1911 had two three wars under its belt before most other common handguns were even designed.

Local.
 
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