Why the hell do people hunt with semi auto rifles??

todbartell

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Seems like half the time somebody brings a gun into the store I work in, its a Remington 742 or 7400

jams, accuracy problems, etc etc

Lucky me on my day off I get to take a 7400 to the range and see why it won't shoot accurate. :popCorn: First off it was extremely fouled with copper and carbon. Got most of that out with WipeOut so now its range time to see if what it will do on paper.

I like Remingtons but not these things! :puke:
 
Bolts [& levers] only for me too please... ;)

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oh gawd please tell me your not one of "those" kinda guys?

hell as long as it fires the right bullet who cares, it just means more game in the woods for bolt gun owners to shoot
 
The one reason I keep coming upon is that they really want a quick second,third ,fourth and fifth shot. What they need all those shots for I don't know.Mind you a Browning BAR is an excellent hunting rifle so long as you make your shots count.Most of the time it's not the semi-automatic rifle its the hunter who takes less than ideal shot because of the availability of a quick next shot. My 2 cents.
 
Biggest problem with semi's and pumps is that people don't clean out the chambers. They clean from the muzzle end and push all the crap into the chamber and then leave it there to corrode and foul up there. It's amazing how much better they operate after you take em down and give them a good cleaning. You gotta love those 6 lb creepy triggers too! I'll fix em, but I won't own one!
 
Funny but I consider this the 95% rule. 5% of problems contribute to 95% #####ing. Me and many others have 7400 and precessors and have had no function or accuracy problems. Mine is the 3006 carbine and it will repeatably print 1 1/8" - 1 1/4" with win silvertips if you let the gun cool. Don't forget this is a pencil barrel and it heats fast. The other reasons people like semis are soft recoil and quick followup.

Brian
 
Semiauto rifles can be very accurate and reliable in the right hands. Obviously you don't like semiautos, so probably won't do well with it.

Give the rifle a fair test with decent handloads, such as you use in your favorite bolt action and you will be surprised at how well they perform.

Most of us includeing myself, prefer a bolt action for a couple of reasons, you don't have to chase the brass and cleaning is easier.

As has been mentioned above cleaning is the answer to relability and accuracy, pretty much like your bolt action if it isn't taken care of properly.

I used a Browning BAR in 30-06 for years and it was a great rifle, easy to carry, low recoil and extremely accurate, 3/4" groups at 100yds were normal with factory ammo.

Some people, for whatever reason, don't operate a bolt very well and take the rifle off their shoulder to do so, haveing to reaquire rifle position and sight picture. Not neccessay with a semiauto.

Like it or not, if every shot leads to a "one shot kill" bolt actions would also be deemed unneccessary.

bearhunter
 
Tod:

Jammo-matics are your friends ... the shop gets to do lots of work on them and charge for it, you get to sell lots of "clips", sling swivels, recoil pads,
see-through mounts and 3-9 scopes, not to mention ammunition....

..... we don't have to own one ourselves ! :p
 
I think a AR 15 woudl be anawesome coyote and gopher gun.

The reason I don't use a semi for big game is reliability, extra weight, rattling noise, and the added maintenece. I've seen some pretty accurate semi auto rifles.

Also, some areas you might have multiple running targets at the same time, so the ability to shoot quickly is a bonus. I don't see the point of a semi in BC, except for varmits.
 
I had a 308, 740 jammoorama. It didn't jamb if you cleaned it but that is where the real problem was.

Every time you undid the screw at the end of the forarm to take it apart for cleaning you had to recheck zero at the range. Seemed that the tension on that screw affected zero.

So now you have to take your clean action ready to go rifle to the range and fire a few to get it back on zero, dirtying up the dam action again. The thing was only good for about 20 shots before it might start jamming again.
 
My M305 and SVT are dead nuts reliable, though I haven't hunted with them.

My 10/22 is also dead nuts reliable with certain types of ammo
 
different strokes for different folks.

i can't speak for any of the remington centrefire guns, all my semi auto experience is with things like the SKS and FN49, never had any problems with either (other than a burr on an SKS firing pin that was easily fixed with a file), as well as with 22LR's. all the problems with semi auto .22's that i have seen have been due to a dirty gun.
 
I collect Ruger .44 carbines, and hunt deer/black bear with two of 'em! I use an old style (1976) and a new deerfield....IMO the .44 mag combined with a semi action is the best damn dogging gun on the planet. When you jump a deer at 15 yards, or have a wounded deer running in front of the dogs right past your stand, having 5 shots good to go can be a big plus.
 
i shoot semi because due to a hand injury (right) i had to learn to shoot from my left shoulder having said that it doesn't mean my left hand co-ordination increased so a bolt rifle was too awkward for a second shot if needed .
 
There is Absolutely Nothing Wrong with hunting with semiautos.
I hunted with M305 last season and she did not give me any problem, sorry todbartell I'm not from your clientelle. ;) Never had to shoot twice as well. (in accuracy field M305 can compete with most bolts in right hands IMHO)
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I'm also "partially lefthanded" so semis are in fact my only option to be confortable.

Why people don't service their rifles properly or keep junk in their gun cabinets are different questions...
 
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