Why the IDF Chose the TAVOR® Over the M4

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Well, I'm no "high speed/low drag" guy or an "operator", but I L-O-V-E the setup that I've built on my Tavor.

I purchased the Tavor because it was non-restricted and there were some aftermarket parts available for it.

I've added a Geiselle Super Sabra trigger pack, and lightning bar... amongst a whack of other touches.

Round count is north of 2500 and haven't had any issues since I threw away the POS magazine that came with it.

It's an AMAZING truck gun and rides in a Pelican case in the back of whatever I'm driving.

Despite our draconian firearms laws, I believe that I would still own a Tavor even if I had the choice to own a non-restricted AR.
 
Mioryder said:
Don,t worry boys , the (m16) AR15 will solider on well into the 21st century, and will not be replaced any time soon as the American Empire is now to destitute and brooke to replace it, along with there space shuttle, or continue its F22 air superior fighter. It's just a sign of the times, crazy!!!!! As crazy perhaps as a women or Donald Trump in the white house......

Did anyone ever even notice , stop to look or even care ? Or did the moment just simply come and pass them by, the day the bloom was off the rose, the day the American Emipre ceased it's glorious rise.......lol. just my thoughts rambling.
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Why would a Tavor thread call for an anti-American rant? And why is a woman in the White House "crazy"...?

The US spends more on defence than the next top 10 countries combined. They discontinued the F-22 in favour of the F-35, and they are projected to spend enough on that program alone to completely pay off Canada's national debt. Overall, the US certainly has plenty of budget woes, but when it comes to buying rifles for their armed forces, they can, and will, get whatever they damn well please. They have continued with the M4 simply because it's the best rifle to fit their needs right now.
 
I would like to handle a rifle like this, might be awkward, but to be honest it looks nice, the round is not my ideal, but it's the most common round
 
Back to the original post... The reasons why the tavor was selected over the m-4 Makes sense. Both are great guns, tavor is better for the applications an idf infantryman would face in a conflict.

We cant relate to that because we dont shoot from our car windows at the range ( probably a good idea...) Or climbing up a stairwell and such.

that being said, a tavor will have no issues to stand next to an AR in a gun locker... So why not own both! Problem solved.
 
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I have to agree with Dorian (post #39) My experience has been good, I shoot as well with my Tavor as I do with my IUR. Typically, I don't spend too much ammo over 300m. Realistically, I know my abilities, I'm no sniper. Price is really high and if I could do it again I would buy the ATRS Varmint to obtain a NR rifle to use in the woods. I'm an old guy, but I did carry a C7 as my work tool, and I would have no problem with the Tavor to use as it was designed. My 2 cents.
 
Leonidas said:
I would have bought one long ago if the accuracy claims were true; Canadian owners report very mediocre accuracy at best. No excuse for a modern (and expensive) rifle to shoot more than 2moa
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Good thing the Tavor does better than that. From the 2 examples I've shot (both with factory triggers), they will hold 1.5MOA with good factory ammo (Hornady TAP) or handloads.
 
9Guns said:
Yep IWI marketing. Exaggerate the upsides and don't mention any of the downsides.
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It's unfair to call it "IWI marketing" When it's what every gun manufacturer does.

But it's true and it's why I always use 3rd party reviews to learn how it all balances out.
 
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king cobra said:
Back to the original post... The reasons why the tavor was selected over the m-4 Makes sense. Both are great guns, tavor is better for the applications an idf infantryman would face in a conflict.

We cant relate to that because we dont shoot from our car windows at the range ( probably a good idea...) Or climbing up a stairwell and such.

that being said, a tavor will have no issues to stand next to an AR in a gun locker... So why not own both! Problem solved.
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I plan on getting one to have a NR platform that works with pretty much everything else that I've purchased to go with my ARs.

Although I'm leaning toward holding out for the X95 so that the manual of arms is closer to my ARs and I can setup an AR style pistol grip.
 
With 62g projectiles I've found my tavor to be very accurate. But in order for to me to get that accuracy out of it I had to do the geiselle trigger upgrade. I attended the Zahal tavor course with Lovie, Ed, and Wally and I took first place in the accuracy shoot. I credit my 3lb trigger for that entirely, as I was using an unmagnified red dot. For me it makes all the difference.
 
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