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These are from my Mini 30 as I sold my 14 following my AR builds. I do agree that OEM magazines need to be used for reliability and larger capacity good mags are hard to find unlike this cheap Korean piece.
100 yards
So that's one group, how about 3 or more to confirm it isn't a fluke. Curious what that thing weighs. Oh and that group is over an inch from what I see.
Travis Bickle
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Agreed as well, I always took it with a grain of salt until I actually spent some time with a friends Mini this past spring.
It was terrible. My XCR was more accurate at 100 meters shooting Norinco 55gr's with iron sights and a short sight radius than his 14 with a 3x9 scope and federal ammunition.
It's too bad as it's a great looking rifle, I like the mechanical design of the action, the iron sights are great!
It just doesn't shoot very well at all sadly.
That was with cheap Chinese steel cased ammo and I can assure you it can shoot that on a consistent basis. Again I will confess that the factory trigger is not the best and can contribute to many flyers. I did hand load back in the day when I used it for a back up dear rifle and should resurrect some data to try and get some better results.
....and yes that is an accurate strut and was waiting to see when a poster would bring that up. Well don't even go there because every dam AR on this site is highly modified so what makes this addition so out of the norm?
As for the action I see a number of range shooters using cheap Chinese M14 copies that have short barrels that look identical to the MINI rifle.
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So what's your accuracy with this set-up?
I do like the A2 flash hider although no front site may be an issue one day, it does improve the looks IMO.
Cheers D
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These are from my Mini 30 as I sold my 14 following my AR builds. I do agree that OEM magazines need to be used for reliability and larger capacity good mags are hard to find unlike this cheap Korean piece.
100 yards
Wow that's simple amazing, really quite unbelievable what with many shooters struggling to shot MOA or better in Trinimon's Black Rifle Challenge with very good quality AR rifles using quality ammo. or match ammo., even hand loads and experienced shooters.
Sqr you really should partake in Trinimon's Black Rifle Challenge and blow all our minds especially using crap ammo. like you state you was used here with this group of 7.62x39 mastery.
I wouldn't call anyone here a liar, but with the ammo. stated along with the rifle (do I understand you correctly that this #5 Rd, group was shot with the 7.62x39 calibre Mini-30 too) it really is hard to swallow that you can somehow shoot MOA (or very close to MOA) with a #5 Rd. group at a 100Yds from a basic non-precision rifle with very poor ammo. while so many others are struggling with quality rifles and hand loads or match quality ammo. to do the same.
I've never considered fliers to be anything, but an excuse for poor accuracy with respect to the rifle and/or shooter if considered on a consistent and common basis; by that I mean blaming a trigger or whatever for poor shots/fliers only is stating the rifle/shooter is not capable of consistent accuracy regardless of the reason.
Also until someone shoots a significant amount of shots like #5 x #5 round groups or a few #10 Rd.groups and then overlay's the targets they may not realize what the true potential accuracy is or lack of accuracy is from their rifle.
Also be interested to hear how you shot this group as in how was the rifle supported and what optic that is?
So what say thee up for the Challenge?
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Wow a considerable amount of doubt on this board. Well I really don't need to prove anything but here is another full target from 100 yards.
Not exactly a full target, but #4 x #5 Rd. groups looking more like 1.5MOA to 2MOA is still incredible if you're running crap ammo. (or any ammo. for that matter) from a Mini-30 (7.62x39).
Like I stated earlier I would never call someone here on CGN a liar for posting up an amazing group, but when you consider what is realistically possible from a rifle of that quality with that ammo.; many extremely experienced shooters (as has been stated here) wouldn't expect anything close to 2MOA even using a lead sled.
I suppose the modifications you've made are working extremely well in that rifle and some how that one particular Mini-30 works well with the crap ammo. you run.
Still you must admit 1 MOA is not to be expected in the least (even 2MOA is a stretch), even from a decent 7.62x39 bolt gun running crap ammo.
I personally know a competent Gunsmith/Gun store owner who will no longer carry Ruger Mini-14/30's because of all the comebacks and complaints regarding terrible accuracy (that was about 4 years ago and he's still won't carry them to this day) with respect to the sale of these Ruger's new.
I mean do you really think shooting a basic non-precision semi. in either .223 or 7.62x39 should even shoot close to MOA with really crappy ammo.?
Premium quality semi.-auto. centre-fire rifles that are made with match chambers/barrels, using match ammo. only do slightly better then MOA (and thats only with a competent shooter) I don't get why you think my/our skepticism is not warranted.
Cheers D
You are realitively new here, so let me explain...
Every couple of months someone comes here and posts nonsense about how well gun 'A' 'B' or 'C' shoots.
Everyone who has experience with those firearms snickers to themselves and maybe a few chime in to call b/s.
Then the poster puts up a picture of a target they shot at 25m or with a different rifle or something they fished out of the can at their range and more laughter and snickering ensues.
I used to call b/s. Now I just think its grand you think your rifle does what you think it does.
You are realitively new here, so let me explain...
Every couple of months someone comes here and posts nonsense about how well gun 'A' 'B' or 'C' shoots.
Everyone who has experience with those firearms snickers to themselves and maybe a few chime in to call b/s.
Then the poster puts up a picture of a target they shot at 25m or with a different rifle or something they fished out of the can at their range and more laughter and snickering ensues.
I used to call b/s. Now I just think its grand you think your rifle does what you think it does.
wow arnt you a piece of work. Your must be one of those line bullies everybody keeps talking about
With a post count of 5 thousand plus, why dont you just say it. " hi Im beltfed, I wasnt gonna say anything but I cant shut the hell up"
way to go grainfed.
I have been in the sport for over 40+ years and have found that most rifles are inherently accurate and that the limiting factor is usually the shooter. I am at the range once per week and fire off a hundred rounds or so during each visit by practicing all of the important things. I am by no means an outstanding shot however I can hold my own.
Practice practice and more practice is what I do.
^ What he said exactly.
Why does every semi auto on cgn NEED to shoot miracle groups? This whole "it needs to shoot moa" bs is silly.
If you have a rifle that shoots 2.5 inch groups at 100 yards with the bulk ammo most people run in their semis, you should be able to nail a 12" gong at 300 yards every time. Yet 75% of the guys can't do this because they don't practice. Then they complain that their semi won't shoot moa (something it was never required to do).
Why does every semi auto on cgn NEED to shoot miracle groups? This whole "it needs to shoot moa" bs is silly.
If you have a rifle that shoots 2.5 inch groups at 100 yards with the bulk ammo most people run in their semis, you should be able to nail a 12" gong at 300 yards every time. Yet 75% of the guys can't do this because they don't practice. Then they complain that their semi won't shoot moa (something it was never required to do).
