Wife Likes Guns, but not in the house (storage question)

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Preparing to get my PAL / RPAL, followed shortly by purchasing my first gun.

Wife is not an anti, but she is being quite stubborn about having guns in the house. (no comments required there, unless they are jokes I can repeat to my wife :) )

To give you an idea of just how stubborn, the solution of having no ammo in the house was NOT a solution. Anyways...

Worst case scenario, I can store my firearms at my brothers house. He has PAL / RPAL, and we will be shooting together 99% of the time anyways.

After reading the heck out of these forums, using the "search" feature and reading the Canadian Firearms Act "Storage" section several times, I can't see any problem with storing non-restricted guns at somebody elses dwelling (safely of course) if they have the proper PAL.

It's the restricted I am confused about.

I have read in a couple threads here that a restricted gun must be stored at the residence of the person the gun is registered to. But when I read the firearms act I don't see anything confirming this.

Transportation issues for a restricted aside, is it possible to store a restricted at somebody elses residence? OR, just writing this, is there something to do with transportation that would prevent storing restricteds at a dwelling other than your own?

Thank you.
 
She is conserned about safety (liberal propaganda that the gun may start jumping around by itself shooting left and right, but mostly left). :D

Costco safe for $399 + opportunity to store her jewelry and valuables there

http://3.bp.########.com/_u9I-cnpm2MM/R_QoaZxfNFI/AAAAAAAAATI/gEBI1zysEMw/s400/safe.jpg
 
Restricted must be stored at the residence to which they are registered.

However, you are allowed to lend firearms to others so long as they are licenced for that firearms class.

So, I may be mistaken here, but you could "lend" them to your brother perminantly. If anyone asks where they are you simply tell the truth. You lent them to your brother.
 
Just a add on to the original question if I may....
I don't have an answer but would also like to know what, if any solution is there??
My dilema is that if I shoot at a range near my brothers place can I keep a handgun there for a night or MUST I go right home after the range. He also has his RPAL with proper storage.
 
soulchaser said:
Restricted must be stored at the residence to which they are registered.
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Any chance you could point me in the direction of that information, having a heck of time finding it in writing beyond posts in the forums. Not doubting, just curious to read more about it.

Thanks
 
Mauser GDog:

What province are you in?

What you can do depends upon what your ATT (authorization to transport) says. If it lists your firearms by serial number, and lists the specific range you belong to and your home address -- then that's it. You have to store your restricted at home or give them up.

Alternatively you can contact the CFO for an ATT with special conditions listing an alternative address where you may store your restricteds. (An example of this was a jeweler who had a huge safe at his business which was sufficently secure to store his restricted by the CFO, and nothing to store his handgun in at home)

But if your ATT lists a single range (or says 'any range') and your home address, and doesn't list your restricteds, and you have a friend who also has an RPAL, then you may 'lend' your restricted to him provided you go to the range with your restricted and registry (using your ATT to go from your home to his), then while at the range lend your restricted and registry to your friend who has an RPAL and an ATT, then your friend can transport your restricted and registry to his home using his ATT, and store it at his home. When you want to use it, your friend would have to drive your gun to the range, at which point you would be able to take it from him. You would not be able to drive with a gun between your two homes in either direction, because your ATTs wouldn't say that.

For more details on this home to range to other home, please see http://www.nfa.ca/content/view/265/199/
 
My wife is giving me the same flak about storing guns in our bedroom closet, as soon as a reasonably priced safe goes on sale though, they will be some news for her.
 
Mauser GDog said:
Any chance you could point me in the direction of that information, having a heck of time finding it in writing beyond posts in the forums. Not doubting, just curious to read more about it.

Thanks
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Firearms Act section 17:
17. Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of the registration certificate for which is an individual,
may be possessed only at the dwelling house of the individual, as recorded in the Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized by a chief firearms officer.
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Note that the CFO can allow storage at an alternative place, you should contact them about this.
 
X2 call your CFO and see what they say. Just make sure you use a pay phone..... and wrap your head in tinfoil. That way that can't red your thoughts :)
 
And tell her you want all the knives out of the house and the car parked down the block, those things are way more dangerous ;)
 
*Edit* I am in Ontario

AhHa! It's in the Transportation not Storage section, thanks eigenvector.

Also thank you rangebob for the link. Very nice how he breaks it all down for you there. That site should be at the top of the Newbie FAQ forum (if it isn't already).

So, I won't be able to store a Restricted Gun at anyone's dwelling other than my own, but I could lend it to them.

So, thanks, and wish me luck in convincing my wife to change her mind. Should go something like this...

"Honey, if I can't store the Restricted Gun here, I can't buy one."
"Good, that means you don't need to buy one."
"Wait.....:bangHead:.....damn."
 
GSoD said:
And tell her you want all the knives out of the house and the car parked down the block, those things are way more dangerous ;)
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I'm saving that argument as my ace up the sleeve...

The debate has been like playing rock/paper/scissors/dynamite but she's the only one with the dynamite.
 
just keep hammering away at her. at first, my better half didnt like guns at all. nows she s a member on the forum and never says no to a trip to the range:rockOn:

worse case, just lie to to her :D we all lie about 'oh that old gun' or 'I dont know why the mailman said ive been getting alot of packages, i havent got anything'.
 
Well, it's not the guns she doesn't like, she's coming with me to get her PAL RPAL also (she was actually in the Reserves for some time). It's the keeping of guns in the house she has issues with.

What those issues are, I'm not sure and frankly I don't think she does either.

We'll see what happens.
 
pin her down, make her define the issue to you. Then you can counter with facts and logic. I would assume she is afraid of kids or others getting into the guns and shooting them self or others. Explain in detail the storage requirements and it should be clear to her that its near impossible for kids or others to negligently discharge the gun if stored properly and not accessible to the ammo.
 
GIGGIDY said:
pin her down, make her define the issue to you. Then you can counter with facts and logic. I would assume she is afraid of kids or others getting into the guns and shooting them self or others. Explain in detail the storage requirements and it should be clear to her that its near impossible for kids or others to negligently discharge the gun if stored properly and not accessible to the ammo.
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I'll work on it. To give you an idea of what I am up against, I offered to store the guns but NEVER ammo in the house. Yeah, she's a live wire!:bigHug:
 
My gun doesn't like like my wives...So, i keep them chained up in the shed.
Why don't you offer a nice bright and shinny piece of jewery as emotional compensation for your growing gun collection. She'll get over it. Buy the guns.
 
jamiejaf said:
My gun doesn't like like my wives...So, i keep them chained up in the shed.
Why don't you offer a nice bright and shinny piece of jewery as emotional compensation for your growing gun collection. She'll get over it. Buy the guns.
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"Twinkly" is more important than "shiny", FYI. :p
 
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