Wild Game ignore shots

John Y Cannuck

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Now I know lots of folk are going to find this hard to accept, but it's the truth, and I think the more experienced here will back me up.

Firing shots over the heads, or even at, wild game doesn't alarm them a bit.

If you hit something close to them, and that makes a noise, that will spook them, but the shot itself has no apparent affect.

I base this on many years of hunting.

The MNR even recommends firing shots to scare away a cow moose if you shoot the calf and she stays. (doesn't work in my experience)

Shooting at running deer. If you miss, the deer won't even change course, unless it sees you, or the bullet strikes something close enough to alarm it. Even then, it's more likely to stop, and look about than fly off in a new direction. Unless of course it sees you move.

No I've no experience with Grizzly/Brown bear encounters, but I honestly wonder how many folks have tried to scare away a bear with a shot, and paid the ultimate price for doing so.

They make bear bangers, because shots don't work, you want the disturbance to be right beside the animal. They tell you to shoot them close to the animal. People in polar bear country will tell you that even then they don't always work.

IMO, making yourself known to the animal, making sure it knows you walk on two legs, not four, letting it get your scent, is the surest way short of shooting the animal dead, to getting a swift departure on the animals part.
The exception being polar bears, and probably some grizzlies/brown bears, that see everything as food.

This may not work on a moose, or black bears for that matter, depending on the circumstances, but It does seem to give them pause. They are well aware that they have few equals in the bush, but they have limited or no experience with humans, and as such may (repeat may) be more cautious if they figure you out.
Yeah, I've been there for a bluff charge by a moose when I had no cow tag and I shot the calf. We did fire shots, she just stood there staring us down. When I separated from my hunting buddy, she charged him, and only stopped when I ran back to him.
It's not an experience I'm in a hurry to repeat. If it happens again, I will stare straight at her, waive my arms, jump around and yell like an idiot, and do it quickly, so she has no chance to feel me out. If she starts to leave , follow her up at a run yelling. That works far better than gun shots. Or has in calves I've shot since.
BTW, be wary while you are gutting, I had one cow come back. I was done gutting, stood up, and there she was 20 ft from me. I never heard her coming. She could have stomped me dead, and I doubt I'd have known she was there 'till she hit me.
 
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You post some interesting theories, only one i can comment on is a momma and her young. After a lifetime of working with livestock all i can say is you don`t know what the hell a mother may do. Wild game are no exception just depends on how strong the bond and temperament. I have seen coyoyes and deer change direction at a near miss, likely from dirt flying up. Never hunted bear so no help there, some days i live with one if that counts. I`ts not recommended you fire shots around those ones.;)
 
I've noticed this with muzzleloaders. I shoot one of the deer the rest run right at me. I figured they hear the sound wave on the other side of them. I've had deer walk out 100 yards from us trap shooting on the farm. Even when sighting in rifles along the back creek I've had deer walk out and graze 1/2 way to the target. The bullet smacking the target makes them jump and look tho
 
its a common occurance for deer or other wildlife to walk onto target line, or between trgts and shooters while live firing is conducted on CF bases, some time of the year more then other
 
We used to have apple trees 50' or so beside the target at our range.
One day my neighbour & I were playing with our V rifles & a doe & fawn walked right up under the tree & started to pull at the lower apples. I watched for a while of course, before I pulled the bag around & proceeded to pop an apple a foot over her head....nothing, she shook her head as if to shake the moisture off & continued, I poped three apples over her before she decided to wander off into the bush :)

No I don't believe animals are alarmed at the sound of a shot.
 
I have shot deer and had the others around them stay still without even flinching even while watching the shot one flop around... Have seen those same deer split like they are on fire the minute I rack the bolt for a second shot...
 
I've had 6 bucks walk out (together) and cross the field as I was target shooting. One actually turned and came down the fenceline and walked between my bench and the truck.

Another time I had missed an easy shot with my ML (garbage red-dot sight) and the two 8-point bucks didn't even lift their heads to look, just kept eating.
 
My experience has been the same as the OP's. I'm thinkin' most wild animals don't pay much attention to gun shots, as most have heard close-range thunder a time, or two, before...
 
Some so called experts will tell you that a bear for example isn't serious about a charge unless he does this, or that. I feel that each animal like each human, has it's own set of rules. Each encounter will be different.
Continuous exposure to a specific game animal may give you some knowledge of that species generalities, but don't bet your life on it.
 
My buddies son shot at a running moose.
It was running away from him.
He figured he fired over him and the moose was gone.
Lo and behold, the dang moose pulled a 180 and ran right
toward him.
He nailed Bullwinkle between the eyes this time.
Kid just shakes his head.
I have told him, always be prepared.
His first moose and he is just tickled.
For the most part, I think the noise from the shot is the alarm
factor.
 
While deer hunting this year one person within our party had an 11-point buck come in at 50 yards. Tried two head shots and missed both times. His Remmington auto loader jammed. He had time to un-jam the rifle...smarten up and take a boiler room shot and the buck dropped.
 
My buddies son shot at a running moose.
It was running away from him.
He figured he fired over him and the moose was gone.
Lo and behold, the dang moose pulled a 180 and ran right
toward him.
He nailed Bullwinkle between the eyes this time.
Kid just shakes his head.
I have told him, always be prepared.
His first moose and he is just tickled.
For the most part, I think the noise from the shot is the alarm
factor.
My estimate here, is that the moose was not spooked by the shot at all, rather the echo of the shot.
The shot itself is hard for a human, much less an animal to get a direction on, an echo if there is one however, is generally longer, and could spook game.
Animals don't understand echos. One time when we were canoing, our dog started barking at our voices echoing off the cliff, then continued to bark at the echo of her own bark.
 
While deer hunting this year one person within our party had an 11-point buck come in at 50 yards. Tried two head shots and missed both times. His Remmington auto loader jammed. He had time to un-jam the rifle...smarten up and take a boiler room shot and the buck dropped.

Wow. Several lessons there, isn't there.

Animals will ignore sounds they cannot understand if they do not have a "confirming sense" to help them decide. Very loud noises may startle, but animals tend to do nothing until they know what to do.

If the animal cannot smell, see, or hear other evidence of your presence, shots may provoke no action, but I don't think "ignore" is the proper term. I have seen animals do nothing in reaction to shots (and other loud sounds) but they are definitely more "alert" after the sound, and will bolt if they figure out a good course of action.
 
While fishing on rivers for salmon I've fired my rifle to scare both blacks and grizzlies that were with in 30 yards of me and the damn bears didn't so much as even look in my direction...they continued on as if nothing had taken place. I've also been totally ignored by a Kermodie bear after firing 3 shots from a 12 guage while staking a mining claim, the kermodie just keep feeding on HIS berries as if to be thinking the more I eat the less he will get.
cheers
 
My experience has also been that deer are not afraid of loud noises but more afraid of cracking twigs etc... I have been cutting timber and had deer walk through the cut line not 100 yards from me... Used to see lots running the combine at night... But snap a twig on the way to a treestand or during a stalk and you'll be looking at tail...
 
My experience has also been that deer are not afraid of loud noises but more afraid of cracking twigs etc... I have been cutting timber and had deer walk through the cut line not 100 yards from me... Used to see lots running the combine at night... But snap a twig on the way to a treestand or during a stalk and you'll be looking at tail...
The sound of a broken twig, is one they instantly recognize as the indicator of something that could be dangerous near by. The sound of a gunshot they not only don't know that it represents danger, but it's so sharp and fast, they can't get a direction on it.

Back to the broken twig, and the tail. Most times, a deer will run only a hundred yards, often fifty, maybe even less depending on the terrain, and cover, then stop and listen. If it senses nothing, it will continue to do it's thing, right there, or walk quietly away. Numerous times, I've been able to stalk up on a deer that I just spooked. Just give them a couple of minutes, and proceed very quietly to follow them. Chances are you will at the very least get another look.
 
A couple of years back, I was out on a quad run.
I did pack a rifle but was more on a find and seek mission.
Trying out my Rino as well.
I came across a small whitetail doe eating under a tree.
I got off the quad and was curious as to how close I could get to her
without actually having her run off.
Her tail flickered and she moved a bit.
Every time she moved, I moved closer.
I got within twenty or so feet from her.
I wish I had a camera that day.
I updated the exhaust on my Zuki and put in a header kit with
the 2" cat back exhaust. A bit noisier than I cared for, but for
some reason this noise doesn't seem to bother animals.
I had a black bear sit like a bunny and I drove within forty or so
yards of him before he spooked.
He did stop and watch some more.
Deer, the same response.
Other than when I turn the tunes up and keep cranking to see at
what volume they run at.
Interesting post.
Noises and what the animals will absorb.
 
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