Wild Wind & Spotting Scope

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Was at Connaught Range last Friday afternoon Canadian championships on and to be followed next week by the world Championships lots of shooters.

The wind came up on a 900 meter match, fellow had a windmeter 70+ KPH
they had to put on 15+minutes for winddrift on .308 Target rifles can't imagine what a .223 would need.
Photo's note judge holding on to hat and flags.
i have seen some big spotting scopes like Leica etc, but the one in photo that the Australians where using in practice was a giant.http://http://http://
 
Was also there shooting the warm-up and ISSF matches. Thursday was also an interesting day of gusting high winds and some horizontal heavy rain. Made for some awefully challenging wind judging/correction. But then again, welcome to Connaught.
 
jkajfes said:
Curious as to who he's communicating with over the wireless headset in the big scope photo?
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The rule for International coached team events only allows for wired headsets. One central coach can communicate with up to 4 other line coaches. Shooters are not wired in. Lets them work on getting the shooter to put them in the middle, without watching for wind angle and velocity changes. The central coach may also stop shooting on all his targets until a more favorable condition returns.
The Brits dropped one point in the Canada Match. 8 shooters, 10 shots each at 300, 500 and 600.
 
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maynard said:
The rule for International coached team events only allows for wired headsets. One central coach can communicate with up to 4 other line coaches. Shooters are not wired in. Lets them work on getting the shooter to put them in the middle, without watching for wind angle and velocity changes. The central coach may also stop shooting on all his targets until a more favorable condition returns.
The Brits dropped one point in the Canada Match. 12 shooters, 10 shots each at 300, 500 and 600.
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thanks Tom... wow would have loved to have seen them shoot!
 
Jon:
The typical banter is a line coach stating to the wired crew what he had on his shooter's sight for the target comming up. Comments back and forth, with the back coach USUALLY having final say on corrections and/or continuations, corrections, stops, etc., etc. The wired systems allow for a more cohesive and calm proceeding.

BTW, I coached and shot the Lum for the US. We won, of cource, even with having lost a bullet to markers. All 6.5's. I had a preload of 6 to 8 minutes at 8 and 9.

Are you comming down to Raton next week??


Alan
 
During the Canada Match we noticed that the Aussies were using a slightly different system. They went with the standard coach & plotter on every target with a central coach but the plotters and central coach were the ones wearing the headsets while the target coaches were completely free.

I can think of a lot of plusses with their method but it would be interesting to find out what their reasoning is for using their communication system/method.


Andy
 
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Jon:
The typical banter is a line coach stating to the wired crew what he had on his shooter's sight for the target comming up. Comments back and forth, with the back coach USUALLY having final say on corrections and/or continuations, corrections, stops, etc., etc. The wired systems allow for a more cohesive and calm proceeding.

BTW, I coached and shot the Lum for the US. We won, of cource, even with having lost a bullet to markers. All 6.5's. I had a preload of 6 to 8 minutes at 8 and 9.

Are you comming down to Raton next week??


Alan
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Thanks for the detail...

no I can't go to Raton Alan... But I really did want to go! I'm trying to save enough up to go to Bisley in 2009... but I'm still going to have to try and look at doing some kind of shoots in the US somehow next year. During this winter I'll be looking at your schedule and hopefully can try and pull something off.

Heck I was only able to spend one day in Ottawa and that really got to me. I think I made a mistake because all the experience I would have gained would have really helped me towards the coming Bisley thing. They had some pretty wild conditions there and the scores were still extremely good... just goes to show the caliber of shooters there.

The team stuff intrigues me I think it's really neat!... I know in just the few team matches I've shot with Jim Bullock coaching me sort of one on one doing the wind thing it's a lot of fun. I can concentrate on putting them where he wants them and I'm a good executioner on a shot... plus I get to learn more. So it would be kind of neat to see how they handle things with electronics and more coaches and stuff... there's not a whole lotta time to be fussing with calls I would think... but I'll bet it works well. Just be interesting to see it all in action.

6-8 minute corrections and the shots going in would be wonderful to watch... heck better if one was doing the shooting!...

I tried looking for you in Ottawa but I was only there for the one day... and then had to come back for work... bummer...
 
I like the coaching system the American F class team used. The shooter started with some wind cranked on the scope and then fired his first shot. After that, the coach called the aim off for each shot. He would say things like 1 right…. 1 ½ right….3 right.
The number referred to the ring that was to be aimed at. 1 right would be aiming at the V ring. 2 right would be aiming at the right bull ring, etc.
It looked very easy and clear to understand.

I had just coached a match and said “Bull right”. “2 right” would have been simpler.
 
GANDERITE said:
I like the coaching system the American F class team used. The shooter started with some wind cranked on the scope and then fired his first shot. After that, the coach called the aim off for each shot. He would say things like 1 right…. 1 ½ right….3 right.
The number referred to the ring that was to be aimed at. 1 right would be aiming at the V ring. 2 right would be aiming at the right bull ring, etc.
It looked very easy and clear to understand.

I had just coached a match and said “Bull right”. “2 right” would have been simpler.
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It might work providing you can see the rings in heavy mirage and the hold off isn't somewhere in the middle of the white or even off the target.
I am an old school iron sight shooter, we twiddle the knobs:p
 
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