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after the conceal one and because of quarantine and cabin fever let s put a new thread in ...

myself i carry only in alaska a ruger gp100 4.2 stainless.

cannot wait to the see the canadian made chest holder.

what about you guys?
 
medvedqc said:
after the conceal one and because of quarantine and cabin fever let s put a new thread in ...

myself i carry only in alaska a ruger gp100 4.2 stainless.

cannot wait to the see the canadian made chest holder.

what about you guys?
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Are we discussing generialized carry or a backcountry hunting carry?

Either way, for me it would be a 1911 based 10mm

- Delta Elite
- Remington R1 Hunter or Ruger SR1911
- Para 16-40 to converted 10mm if profile wasn't a concern. Just for extra capacity (ya ya i know 10rnds only..)

A 1911 platform makes sense to me. Slim overall profile, metal construction opposed to polymer would help your typical abuse outside in extreme cold temps. 10 rnds of med-hot 10mm reloads would be ample detterant up to Bear sized.

Others?

- .44Mag Wheel gun in 4.25 a 4.5" range (S&W 629 probably)
- Glock in 10mm if I was really watching Ounces for a Back Country Hunt type scenario. It does have a bulky profile though. Its' simple design if I were to go down w/injury or sickness means any non-experienced person could use it in a pinch.
 
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I carry my cell phone so that if i get attacked i can call our government for help. Defending yourself is barbaric and totally not in keeping with our new progressive post national ideals.
 
I prefer to carry a carbine when I may. However, if my activity precludes a carbine and it's a place where it's legal (eg. Province where CFO will issue ATC) then Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt with hand rolled cartridges. (250 gr. WFN over 231 or 230 gr. SWC over IMR 4227)
 
ShrtRnd said:
Are we discussing generialized carry or a backcountry hunting carry?

Either way, for me it would be a 1911 based 10mm

- Delta Elite
- Remington R1 Hunter or Ruger SR1911
- Para 16-40 to converted 10mm if profile wasn't a concern. Just for extra capacity (ya ya i know 10rnds only..)

A 1911 platform makes sense to me. Slim overall profile, metal construction opposed to polymer would help your typical abuse outside in extreme cold temps. 10 rnds of med-hot 10mm reloads would be ample detterant up to Bear sized.

Others?

- .44Mag Wheel gun in 4.25 a 4.5" range (S&W 629 probably)
- Glock in 10mm if I was really watching Ounces for a Back Country Hunt type scenario. It does have a bulky profile though. Its' simple design if I were to go down w/injury or sickness means any non-experienced person could use it in a pinch.
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What about a Sig p220 in 10mm? They are very nice
 
Im am in the process of applying for wilderness carry for my work but with covid I wont be able to go the course this year so its likely to be pushed off.

I chose a gp100 in 357 mag.

My decision making process went like this:

The firearm is my final line of defence, there are several things going on in my SOPs to avoid a bear encounter, then deter a bear before a firearm might be used

Calibre: im not a big guy. Recoil is a consideration and hits on target are more effective than theoretical energy and wound channel size. If jumped it could very well be single handed shooting. 10mm or 357 mag. Hot loads

Pistol vs revolver. This came down to debris contamination. I move through the bush to track specific lines. Whatever is in my way, no matter how thick, snaggy or dirty or wet I must go through to keep my gps track accurate. I get absolutely covered in crap. A revolver has more tolerance for debris and contamination in its function. Also with all the bumping a jostling, a mag might get released while in holster. A draw in an emergency may leave no time for a mag tap.

Is a pistol generally faster? Yes.
Is higher energy and larger bullets more damaging? Yes

However, practical results beats theory every time when it hits the fan. The best gun on paper and the best gun in a fight can be different.

The best gun is a gun that functions no matter what and that YOU can consistently get on target with every shot

If I were a hunting guide, or going fishing or flying in the bush, I would probably choose a different setup.
 
jbrow397 said:
Im am in the process of applying for wilderness carry for my work but with covid I wont be able to go the course this year so its likely to be pushed off.

I chose a gp100 in 357 mag.

My decision making process went like this:

The firearm is my final line of defence, there are several things going on in my SOPs to avoid a bear encounter, then deter a bear before a firearm might be used

Calibre: im not a big guy. Recoil is a consideration and hits on target are more effective than theoretical energy and wound channel size. If jumped it could very well be single handed shooting. 10mm or 357 mag. Hot loads

Pistol vs revolver. This came down to debris contamination. I move through the bush to track specific lines. Whatever is in my way, no matter how thick, snaggy or dirty or wet I must go through to keep my gps track accurate. I get absolutely covered in crap. A revolver has more tolerance for debris and contamination in its function. Also with all the bumping a jostling, a mag might get released while in holster. A draw in an emergency may leave no time for a mag tap.

Is a pistol generally faster? Yes.
Is higher energy and larger bullets more damaging? Yes

However, practical results beats theory every time when it hits the fan. The best gun on paper and the best gun in a fight can be different.

The best gun is a gun that functions no matter what and that YOU can consistently get on target with every shot

If I were a hunting guide, or going fishing or flying in the bush, I would probably choose a different setup.
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A GP 100 in .357 is a solid choice - and realistically offers just as much utility as a semi-auto. In scenarios that my time in the bush has come up with, 6 rounds versus 10 rounds on board is not all that much of a difference - and magazine versus speedloader is even less relevant.

In terms of dirt/snagging/magazines being released - I've had a bit of pertinent experience in that area. I've ended up crawling through some truly ugly brush in Texas while hunting feral hogs, and did so with a Glock 20 on my belt. When in a holster which is selected with that sort of duty in mind, there is no way that the magazine could be released as long as the pistol is in the holster, because the magazine release button is only accessible from the left side of the pistol (assuming a right handed shooter) - and that area of the right side of the pistol is in contact with the material of the holster.

If you've already purchased the GP100, then I see absolutely zero issue to change course. It is an eminently serviceable revolver, and for your application the only relevant advantage that a Glock 20 would offer is being lighter. If you have not yet purchased it, you may want to take a close look at a variety of holster options - and maybe even talk to one of the Canadian outfits that makes Kydex holsters to order. Despite enjoying quality leather, I like kydex for holsters for a few reasons - one-handed re-holstering being at the top of the list. It's also impervious to water, can be cleaned with a garden hose and brush no matter how filthy it has gotten, and with good design you can adjust the tension in a variety of ways.

Speaking as someone who has spent a lot more time with a pistol on my belt than most Canadians, your holster and belt choice probably matters more in your level of comfort and "pain in the @rse factor" with carrying a handgun than the difference between a G20 and a GP100. I found that a G20 with the right holster and belt was more comfortable and less obtrusive to carry than a single stack 9mm in the wrong holster.
 
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I carry my cell phone so that if i get attacked i can call our government for help. Defending yourself is barbaric and totally not in keeping with our new progressive post national ideals.
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might also be " ILLEGAL" to defend ones Self or Family to according to the RCMP - Best to just call them to come and help ! LOL :d They will be there SOON ! :p
 
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A GP 100 in .357 is a solid choice - and realistically offers just as much utility as a semi-auto. In scenarios that my time in the bush has come up with, 6 rounds versus 10 rounds on board is not all that much of a difference - and magazine versus speedloader is even less relevant.

In terms of dirt/snagging/magazines being released - I've had a bit of pertinent experience in that area. I've ended up crawling through some truly ugly brush in Texas while hunting feral hogs, and did so with a Glock 20 on my belt. When in a holster which is selected with that sort of duty in mind, there is no way that the magazine could be released as long as the pistol is in the holster, because the magazine release button is only accessible from the left side of the pistol (assuming a right handed shooter) - and that area of the right side of the pistol is in contact with the material of the holster.

If you've already purchased the GP100, then I see absolutely zero issue to change course. It is an eminently serviceable revolver, and for your application the only relevant advantage that a Glock 20 would offer is being lighter. If you have not yet purchased it, you may want to take a close look at a variety of holster options - and maybe even talk to one of the Canadian outfits that makes Kydex holsters to order. Despite enjoying quality leather, I like kydex for holsters for a few reasons - one-handed re-holstering being at the top of the list. It's also impervious to water, can be cleaned with a garden hose and brush no matter how filthy it has gotten, and with good design you can adjust the tension in a variety of ways.

Speaking as someone who has spent a lot more time with a pistol on my belt than most Canadians, your holster and belt choice probably matters more in your level of comfort and "pain in the @rse factor" with carrying a handgun than the difference between a G20 and a GP100. I found that a G20 with the right holster and belt was more comfortable and less obtrusive to carry than a single stack 9mm in the wrong holster.
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Great feedback. Thanks. I already own the gp100. That said, nothing stopping me from selling it and switching.
 
Sometimes you have to carry when changing targets at the range.

No this is not my pic but it is my range. Guy was shooting at the 300 yard target when a grizz walked over the berm and right in front of the targets.

This was in November of 2016 and only a cellphone pic but you can see the bear. Wonder how a 1911 45acp would fare against him.

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One other thing that might be a positive for your application - some sort of simple retention/thumb break on the holster. I'm a big fan of very being very positive in terms of keeping important things 100% on my body when I'm covering distance through the bush.
 
For wilderness carry

I'd go with what I own.... a Model 629 .44 Mag 6" barrel.

I also have a vintage 29-2 but I'd carry the stainless 629 for the weather resistance properties.

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AlbertaJohn said:
Sometimes you have to carry when changing targets at the range.

No this is not my pic but it is my range. Guy was shooting at the 300 yard target when a grizz walked over the berm and right in front of the targets.

This was in November of 2016 and only a cellphone pic but you can see the bear. Wonder how a 1911 45acp would fare against him.

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lol last year we had a black bear sow at the range with a tag on each ear i was shooting with a CO and that so dangerous to see she was not scare of any shots. that bear was shot as she was not more scared of people or gun.

when we did our test for the 9.3 bullets with our whynot? we had a grizzly that was not far from us but never came that close because he knew the effect of the 9.3x62 ...
 
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