wilderness carry

I currently carry a para elite hunter 10mm and sometimes a Springfield xdm10.
The para elite hunter is now the remington r1 Hunter it is a great firearm.
I took a wilderness carry course about five years ago. The guys carrying large revolvers where definitely at a disadvantage over the guys shooting autoloaders in lighter recoiling calibres.
On the charging grizzly target the large revolver guys were lucky to get one shot off due to recoil. I was able to get five off and all landed in the face before the grizzly target hit me. I new I made the right decision after practicing on that target.

I roll my own 225gr hard cast 10mm ammo. I also like the the 180 and 200gr xtp bullets
 
Bare said:
I currently carry a para elite hunter 10mm and sometimes a Springfield xdm10.
The para elite hunter is now the remington r1 Hunter it is a great firearm.
I took a wilderness carry course about five years ago. The guys carrying large revolvers where definitely at a disadvantage over the guys shooting autoloaders in lighter recoiling calibres.
On the charging grizzly target the large revolver guys were lucky to get one shot off due to recoil. I was able to get five off and all landed in the face before the grizzly target hit me. I new I made the right decision after practicing on that target.

I roll my own 225gr hard cast 10mm ammo. I also like the the 180 and 200gr xtp bullets
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if you do not mind what calibers and models were used for pistol and revolver?
 
Good thread. I've been on many hunting and hiking trips in remote locations where having a handgun would have been very convenience and made sense. Honestly, if this was ever an option, I'd have a big rotation :) (yes i know you have to qualify with one but this is fantasy, right?)
for autos:
Sig P220 10mm
Coonan 357 (with buffalo bore 180s)
some kind of 1911 10mm
LAR Grizzly 45 Win Mag (why not)
Yes probably a Glock 20 or 40

Revolvers:
629 4"
Freedom Arms 44 or 454
Smith 69 2.75"
Super Blackhawk 4.62"
 
Currently carrying (I have a ATC for work) a vintage Ruger Redhawk 44 mag with a 6" barrel. Its heavier than I'd like and unfortunately we are not allowed to use shoulder holsters anymore, the government deems them to dangerous or concealing... or some other BS RCMP excuse. I plan on picking up a 1911 in 10mm eventually.

If anyone is seriously considering getting their permit I'd highly recommend 10mm in an auto, 44 mag in a revolver or in other words a 200+ grain bullet moving as fast as possible. I've had plenty of close encounters with Griz, and know several people who have been charged. Yes almost anything will kill a bear but most people don't realize how fast #### happens. If your luckily its a 2 shot defence, best bet is making that first shot count.
 
medvedqc said:
if you do not mind what calibers and models were used for pistol and revolver?
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Auto loaders were glock 20, 1911 in 10mm and a couple desert eagles in 357 and 44 magnum

Most revolvers were smith and Wesson 44 mags or 357.

I’m going to add my 357 colt king cobra target to my permit. I surprised myself how fast and accurate I am with it. I can handle heavy 44 magnum loads but I can’t shoot them fast enough in my opinion.
 
Normal black bears (ie. not large coastals) .357 magnum.

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Great bears, Ruger Super Redhawk, .454 Casull.

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remington jim said:
Or the same in Super Redhawk 44 Mag and 300 gr Bullets - RJ

Heres the one i would like to HAVE if i could ever find one ! :cheers:

Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan Toklat .454 Casull Revolver, 5 inch Slab-Side Barrel, Stainless Finish, 6 Round – Ruger 5517
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if you want to jump it is doable ...

h t t p s ://www.elliscountyfirearms.com/product/ruger-super-redhawk-toklat-5-5517-454casull-talo-item-new/
 
jbrow397 said:
Im am in the process of applying for wilderness carry for my work but with covid I wont be able to go the course this year so its likely to be pushed off.

I chose a gp100 in 357 mag.

My decision making process went like this:

The firearm is my final line of defence, there are several things going on in my SOPs to avoid a bear encounter, then deter a bear before a firearm might be used

Calibre: im not a big guy. Recoil is a consideration and hits on target are more effective than theoretical energy and wound channel size. If jumped it could very well be single handed shooting. 10mm or 357 mag. Hot loads

Pistol vs revolver. This came down to debris contamination. I move through the bush to track specific lines. Whatever is in my way, no matter how thick, snaggy or dirty or wet I must go through to keep my gps track accurate. I get absolutely covered in crap. A revolver has more tolerance for debris and contamination in its function. Also with all the bumping a jostling, a mag might get released while in holster. A draw in an emergency may leave no time for a mag tap.

Is a pistol generally faster? Yes.
Is higher energy and larger bullets more damaging? Yes

However, practical results beats theory every time when it hits the fan. The best gun on paper and the best gun in a fight can be different.

The best gun is a gun that functions no matter what and that YOU can consistently get on target with every shot

If I were a hunting guide, or going fishing or flying in the bush, I would probably choose a different setup.
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Sorry but you said a revolver has more tolerance for debris . from everything I have ever heard the reason the military went away from revolvers is they get screwed up quicker than a semiauto . which usually doesn't have any open areas like a revolver. if you carry a revolver and you your choice is a Gp100 see if you can find a holster that has a full flap . otherwise in Bear country you might be better served by a 10mm glock . if I had to go into the bush I'd be carrying a 12 gauge pump loaded with slugs . now this is just my opinion .
 
I really like my m&p. It’s a 9mm. For carrying though. I’d buy the same gun in a .40 and fill it with copper jacketed hallow points. Main reason for that choice is I’m accurate and confident with my m&p. I would likely carry on my belt in warm weather and in a chest holster when geared up for the cold weather.
 
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