I think if the next generation that starts hunting is introduced to Firearms through video games they may start out fascinated with semis the same as a previous generation raised on western movies may have started out liking levers, I think most would still end up with a bolt.
Will all hunting rifles be AR or AK type clones one day?
- Thread starter John Y Cannuck
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
Ok, a couple of things rather shocked me by the responses so far;
A: That many of you seem to have accepted that one day semi auto's will be banned. FFS GUYS! This kind of thinking got us C-68, and the original handgun registry. Stand up for your beliefs, and fight to keep and use ALL firearms in the field.
B: That Bolt guys still don't realize the advancements semi's have made accuracy wise. They are fast catching up with Bolts, and the best have already surpassed other action types.
A: That many of you seem to have accepted that one day semi auto's will be banned. FFS GUYS! This kind of thinking got us C-68, and the original handgun registry. Stand up for your beliefs, and fight to keep and use ALL firearms in the field.
B: That Bolt guys still don't realize the advancements semi's have made accuracy wise. They are fast catching up with Bolts, and the best have already surpassed other action types.
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
Myself I see other action types rising in price as the popularity of them decreases in favor of black rifles. They won't I hope disappear, but may become too pricey for many of us.
Support other action types simply by buying them. And Piss off a Liberal today!
Support other action types simply by buying them. And Piss off a Liberal today!
I researched the heck out of this before I bought my first rifle, and decided that a semi-auto hunting rifle was the best thing for me. Not an AR platform (Restricted, anyway), or even NR things like a Benelli MR1 or SKS, but in my case a semi-auto Browning BAR won out as the best I was looking for.
All the benefits of a classic traditional hunting rifle "feel", with the added benefit of rapid follow-up shots if required, without taking your hands off the control surfaces.
Just don't make my mistake by trying to install the scope yourself if you don't have all the proper kit.
An AR is still going to make its way into my closet when I can afford a good one (Daniel Defense), but even if it weren't Restricted I would still hunt with the BAR over an AR.
All the benefits of a classic traditional hunting rifle "feel", with the added benefit of rapid follow-up shots if required, without taking your hands off the control surfaces.
Just don't make my mistake by trying to install the scope yourself if you don't have all the proper kit.
An AR is still going to make its way into my closet when I can afford a good one (Daniel Defense), but even if it weren't Restricted I would still hunt with the BAR over an AR.
bearkilr
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I'd have to disagree. Bolt action guns have never been more affordable than they are right now. Savage, Ruger, Mossberg, Tikka, etc. I paid $1200 US for a Browning Abolt SS with basic Leupold in the late 80's, and that was a smokin' deal. I can get the exact same setup today for less, in Canada.
Until AR's become non restricted, they're obviously useless as a hunting rifle in Canada. I do use a Benelli MR1 for varmints and like it a lot, but it'll never replace my long range bolt gun.
Where did you get the idea that all new hunting rifles are AR or AK type clones that are prohibited or restricted now? In any case, if the Socialist F**ks get their way, there won't be any private ownership of any kind of firearm and no hunting at all.
'Tacticool' and 'tactical' are marketing buzz words and nothing more. Used to be "Law enforcement", 30 plus years ago.
'Tacticool' and 'tactical' are marketing buzz words and nothing more. Used to be "Law enforcement", 30 plus years ago.
But what if we just don't like hunting with a semi auto? Don't get me wrong, I've got 7 or 8 of them along with a few handguns tucked away in the safe, and I enjoy shooting them, but when the action's happening, put a good bolt or lever in my hands! Haven't found a semi that does it for me in a hunting scenario (ducks and geese aside), either the bolt/lever balance and handling is way better or I'm just too used to them to change. Couple that with my inherent distrust of the safety button (give me half #### or an open bolt any day), it's too loud to rack a round in the chamber when you've got a deer under 100 paces.
Jerengineer
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- Okanagan, BC
I use my RFB for hunting but for my bison hunt this year I took out the ol 300 mag. Don't see that being replaced with a black rifle anytime soon. (I only need one shot anyway!!!! lol, just kidding (no I'm not, that bison dropped like a ton of bricks within 10 steps)).
Interesting thread though. I'm going to drop the picture in here just so you folks actually read my post.
Interesting thread though. I'm going to drop the picture in here just so you folks actually read my post.
I use my RFB for hunting but for my bison hunt this year I took out the ol 300 mag. Don't see that being replaced with a black rifle anytime soon. (I only need one shot anyway!!!! lol, just kidding (no I'm not, that bison dropped like a ton of bricks within 10 steps)).
Interesting thread though. I'm going to drop the picture in here just so you folks actually read my post.
Nice! I'd love to try that someday!
Wtf are you talking about?.... lol
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
That's true for many of us today. I don't own a semi long gun at this point. I hunt with most other action types.
But when you go out in the deer woods check the rifles you see. We're being usurped.
The old argument that semis are jam-o-matics has (with a few notable exceptions) been deflated by reliable military based action types.
Black guns, even if they were to be banned in Canada, will likely not be south of the border. So, we being a small market, will suffer.
Sure bolt guns are priced on the high side of reasonable today, but if demand drops, price will rise, or quality will drop, or both.
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
Maybe he'll go back and re-read the post he's yammering about.
Somewhat disagree with this... the simplicity of a bolt will always make it easier to manufacture at a lower price... ie axis, american etc... these lower priced bolt guns will help keep the higher priced stuff in check.... I have never seen anyone make a bargain basement semi that worked worth beans.....
My Browning BAR in 30-06 has shot 200+ and counting so far without a stoppage, with six types of ammo. Everything from Remington Corelokt to the "premium" stuff from Hornady and Federal.
You pay for that reliability, though, but it's not like it's a $5,000 rifle. With a Leupold VX3 it came out to $2k after tax, which is reasonable for something I can hand off to my grandkids one day.
I would love to hunt with a smooth, easy to carry, accurate rifle when the situation is right for it, unfortunately this fits the description of an AR, and thus is not an option at the time. I can see semi auto becoming more common if that situation changes, but never taking over bolt actions.
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
Historically the military rifle in use quickly becomes the sporting rifle of choice.
Simple availability of used pieces sees to that.
Simple availability of used pieces sees to that.
But we may never see that again, unless Canada grows a set of balls or the UN changes it's mandate of member nations destroying all their surplus firearms rather than reselling them to the people as in the past. Right now we aren't even eligible to get the Ranger's 303's when they're phased out over the next four or five years. (Or however long it takes the government to get it's act together on buying a freakin 308 bolt rifle)
Bigfoot 870
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- Nova Scotia
Nope.
