Will coyotes keep the deer away?

[razorbeck]

Coyotes in the east are much different then coyotes on the plains, as I understand it eastern coyotes are basically the size of wolves and apparently got that way from breeding with dogs and wolves as they migrated

Out here in the west coyotes aren't much bigger then foxes

 

[mbogo3]

Wow...............Eastern coyotes AKA brush wolves have timber + red wolf DNA and Western coyotes can go anywhere from 35-50+ lbs.Red Fox 8-13lbs

 

[rral22]

Coyotes in the east are much different then coyotes on the plains, as I understand it eastern coyotes are basically the size of wolves and apparently got that way from breeding with dogs and wolves as they migrated

Out here in the west coyotes aren't much bigger then foxes

Have you ever seen a coyote and a fox? That's absurd.

 

[rkm456]

It will make a difference don't let anyone tell you it does not....
Example.....if there are 3 coyotes around, they may eat a few fawns in the spring..... If the 3 coyotes are killed, they won't be around to eat the fawns...just makes sense.....
Now some may say new coyotes will move in......well that might be, but wherever they came from, will have fewer coyotes too......So the total amount of coyotes will be less and less coyotes means less likely a fawn will be killed...
Killing coyotes does help, the ones that say it doesn't, I just don't believe them..

I know it's counterintuitive, but that's not how coyotes work. When they realize one is missing from the pack, the females have bigger litters. We have coyotes in Ontario because the U.S. government decided to try to wipe them off the continent in the early 1900's.

To be hoenst, I'm reasonably convinced that in 100 years all that will be around will be crows, geese and coyotes.

 

[Red_Mist]

Honestly I wish I could re read the study. I recall it being from the southern USA , therefore other predation wasn’t mentioned (bears, wolves or cougars). In this particular study the deer population was stable , so they felt the fawn kill wasn’t adversely affecting the population. Stands to reason though ... drop predation and deer population will increase. As for coyote population, they are very hardy and can have 19 in a litter !

 

[fratri]

I know it's counterintuitive, but that's not how coyotes work. When they realize one is missing from the pack, the females have bigger litters. We have coyotes in Ontario because the U.S. government decided to try to wipe them off the continent in the early 1900's.

To be hoenst, I'm reasonably convinced that in 100 years all that will be around will be crows, geese and coyotes.

I guess I am a nonbeliever....A dead coyote cant eat............ environment, food supply, will dictate how big the litter...

 

[canadian hunter312]

I guess I am a nonbeliever....A dead coyote cant eat............ environment, food supply, will dictate how big the litter...

https://relay-nationalgeographic-co...errer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s

One of the most fascinating mechanisms for the coyote’s survival is that it can quickly change its breeding habits according to realities on the ground. Explain how that works.


The coyote evolved with an adaptive, evolutionarily derived strategy for surviving under persecution. Coyotes evolved alongside larger canids, like wolves, which often persecuted and harassed them and killed their pups. As a result, both jackals and coyotes developed this fission-fusion adaptation, which human beings also have. This enables them to either function as pack predators or as singles and pairs. When they’re persecuted, they tend to abandon the pack strategy and scatter across the landscape in singles and pairs. And the poison campaign was one of the things that kept scattering them across North America.

One of the other adaptations they have is that, whenever their populations are pressured, their litter sizes go up. The normal size is five to six pups. When their populations are suppressed, their litters get up as high as 12 to 16 pups. You can reduce the numbers of coyotes in a given area by 70 percent but the next summer their population will be back to the original number. They use their howls and yipping to create a kind of census of coyote populations. If their howls are not answered by other packs, it triggers an autogenic response that produces large litters.

 

[canadian hunter312]

Coyotes in the east are much different then coyotes on the plains, as I understand it eastern coyotes are basically the size of wolves and apparently got that way from breeding with dogs and wolves as they migrated

Out here in the west coyotes aren't much bigger then foxes

Sorry, try again....

 

[Drillbit]

Seen carcasses this fall from two 8 point bucks, killed by coyotes. They run them to exhaustion, then feast.

They kill/eat lots of fawns in the spring too.

Kill every one you can.

 

[razorbeck]

Coyotes Body length ranges on average from 1.0 to 1.35 m

Foxes are between 90 and 112 cm in length

 

[rral22]

Coyotes Body length ranges on average from 1.0 to 1.35 m

Foxes are between 90 and 112 cm in length

So, you haven't really seen one of either then, but you read those numbers somewhere that knows nothing about them either?

 

[razorbeck]

Nope I live in Manitoba so I have never seen bears,moose,elk, deer or wolves either

 

[rmcda]

I have often seen deer and coyotes in the same area during hunting trips.
After deer season is closed I hunt coyotes.

 

[Waterfowler]

coyotes will not drive the deer off unless you have the mother of all coyote problems. just 2 days ago i called in a coyote through a herd of deer. they were scattered all over and he ran the trail right past them on his way to me. killing some especially in spring will help with fawn mortality rates but thats about it.

Issue with that is letting a den full of pups starve to death, unless it is before birthing.

 

[scruffee]

Prey and predator coexist and always have. I see no change in deer patterns with the fluctuating coyote population.

Personally, I see a bigger change in patterns where Mule Deer are taking the place of Whitetail Deer...

 

[rkm456]

Here's an article on a very relevant study that concluded in 2019. (Data used was from 1981-2014)

https://www.themeateater.com/conservation/wildlife-management/study-eastern-whitetails-thrive-despite-coyote-invasion?utm_campaign=Eastern%20Whitetails%20Thrive%20Despite%20Coyote%20Invasion%20&utm_content=1581033849&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR17hxPC1Ao8UdKkaoY0FeRqI8mGiXEcBqLgdG3UErUBKCPtKDHMg0gD15U

 

[blasted_saber]

I was watching the "sportsman channel" the coyote problem is so bad in Ontario you can hunt them year round.

The coyote "problem" in Ontario is so bad because theres an incredible population of agriculture fed deer to support them.

 

[rkm456]

The coyote "problem" in Ontario is so bad because theres an incredible population of agriculture fed deer to support them.

Ontario's "problem" is largely imagined.

 

[Trimmer 905]

Ontario's "problem" is largely imagined.

Holy Crap!! Yeah,OK if you say so. They're ripping up garbage pails in broad daylight on collection day and dog walkers are carrying Bear spray in our residential neighborhoods east of Oshawa. If we get up early enough,we can sit on our front porch with morning coffee and watch them. There used to be many feral cats that roamed the neighborhood,not anymore. Where do you live? Downtown Toronto....oh wait,there's lots down there,too.

 

[DVXDUDE]

My theory is I try to kill as many as I can when pelts are prime in fall and winter. Therefore the coyotes I kill cant hunt deer in the winter when it's the easiest and they cant kill fawns in the spring or reproduce.