Will the classic magnums see a renaissance?
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New....phhht! Modern and "improved"...harumph! Marketing makes up all kinds of supposed "advantages".
Gotta be one of the "new" cartridges for accuracy! Slop-ey gradual shoulders, belts and rims wreck accuracy, doncha know!
https://benchrest.com/forum/threads/why-i-shoot-the-30-30-in-benchrest.95849/
And zero taper cases, with razor sharp shoulders are a must, otherwise you're throwing out cases! Thousands for new rifle + piles for new trendy brass.. and the whole time there's guys getting 30 reloads out of regular 30-06 brass!
Gotta be one of the "new" cartridges for accuracy! Slop-ey gradual shoulders, belts and rims wreck accuracy, doncha know!
https://benchrest.com/forum/threads/why-i-shoot-the-30-30-in-benchrest.95849/
And zero taper cases, with razor sharp shoulders are a must, otherwise you're throwing out cases! Thousands for new rifle + piles for new trendy brass.. and the whole time there's guys getting 30 reloads out of regular 30-06 brass!
So true.New....phhht! Modern and "improved"...harumph! Marketing makes up all kinds of supposed "advantages".
Gotta be one of the "new" cartridges for accuracy! Slop-ey gradual shoulders, belts and rims wreck accuracy, doncha know!
https://benchrest.com/forum/threads/why-i-shoot-the-30-30-in-benchrest.95849/
And zero taper cases, with razor sharp shoulders are a must, otherwise you're throwing out cases! Thousands for new rifle + piles for new trendy brass.. and the whole time there's guys getting 30 reloads out of regular 30-06 brass!
Guys literally hand me their spent brass at the range because they know I reload. No shortage of .300WM out there. We’re not talking about F Class here. What are you really gaining at the end of the day… Diminishing returns…
That paper really feels the extra FPS
My go too moose magnum is my 338 wm and then my 7mm rem. I have shot plenty of moose with my 308 in my younger years but I have found the magnums i use put them down with more authority and faster. I traded off all my WSMs and back to the basics.
I do already have a 3006 standing by for when I am ready to step away from the magnums. A recent bout with cancer and its associated treatments had me thinking that time was soon but I am bouncing back well for now.
I do already have a 3006 standing by for when I am ready to step away from the magnums. A recent bout with cancer and its associated treatments had me thinking that time was soon but I am bouncing back well for now.
That is awesome!! The bench rest link is awesome!!New....phhht! Modern and "improved"...harumph! Marketing makes up all kinds of supposed "advantages".
Gotta be one of the "new" cartridges for accuracy! Slop-ey gradual shoulders, belts and rims wreck accuracy, doncha know!
https://benchrest.com/forum/threads/why-i-shoot-the-30-30-in-benchrest.95849/
And zero taper cases, with razor sharp shoulders are a must, otherwise you're throwing out cases! Thousands for new rifle + piles for new trendy brass.. and the whole time there's guys getting 30 reloads out of regular 30-06 brass!
And the 30-06,was just a Yankee copy of the 8x57. Which was a further development of the 7x57, etc. So it goes. - dan
Uh, except the 7.9x57 [which in N.A. is commonly known as the 8x57] cartridge, which first saw the light of day in the 1888 [Rifle Testing Commission] Infantry Rifle, predated the 7x57 by 5 years.
Stranger yet is the 7.65x53 Mauser cartridge, which, even back in 1889, generated superior results in a supposedly weak action [1889 Mauser rifle], to the 60+ years younger T65, which would later become the 7.62 x51 NATO cartridge.
The T65 cartridge was developed to mirror the original ballistics of the .30-06 cartridge; ie. a 150 grain bullet @ 2,700 fps.
While the original loading of the 7.65x53 cartridge was a ~210 grain bullet @ 2,130 fps, the new-ish [~1904] military loading was a 155 grain bullet @ 2,710 fps, which still beat the Yankee upstart!
