Williams peep on pre-'64 model 94

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Hi all. Has anyone successfully used a Williams FP 94/336 rear sight on a
pre-'64 winchester 30-30, and had the original front sight height turn out to be useable?

The Williams website doesnt really mention compatability with the front sight.
One customer review on one of the large online retailers site claimed that the
rear sight ended up being too high, and the elevation ran out of adjustment, causing the rifle to shoot quite high at the lowest setting at 100 yards. That was only one review though, and there could have been other factors.

PS Mine is a 1954, top eject, and appears to be already drilled/tapped in the receiver for mounting this sight. I know I can get a firesight for the front that
would likely work if the existing front sight does not, but probably wouldnt bother if i didnt have to. Williams doesnt have an e-mail address! Hoping someone here can answer my question and save me a call.

tks
 
I hope to hear the answer to this question as well...I have a 1957 top eject model 94 on it's way to me and was planning to use the exact same sight.
 
I've installed a few of the sights over the last few decades for others, I don't recall needing to change the front sight.

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Mount the new sight before removing the old rear sight. Use the original sights to line-up the new sight, you'll save time and money and be on target with your first shot.
 
Yes, it's quite common to have them shooting too high.
If you have been playing with guns for a few years, or more, you may have some front sights in your junk box. The 94 is the most common front sight there is, and they make all different heights.
If you are near a gunsmith you could get one for a very few dollars.
Or, if you are a handy man. I recently fixed the situation with half inch of copper wire and a soldering iron.
If you have a working work shop, as opposed to the tidy type where everything is hanging on the peg marked for it, you will have some pieces of house wiring. The common #14, used in all houses is just right. Cut a piece of the current carrying wire about half inch long and set it aside.
Take the sight off of your rifle and file the top down flat. Tin the top with solder. Then carefully solder the wire, nice and straight, on top of the sight.
File it down to the shape you want. A dab of cold blue will fix the iron sight, where you filed it down, but leave the wire copper colored.
Experiment, make it how you want it.
If it is a complete failure, buy a new sight of the proper height.
 
I installed a Williams on my 94 BB in 356 and had no issues re front sight height. I did end up changing it to a Skinner sight brass flat top blade sight. Looks good and very easy to see.
 
Hmm, some yes and some no. I may just order a sight from Williams directly if i can, they are not that much extra money, and then will have it just in case.
I will wait though, and see if anyone else chimes in with their experience.

Thanks everyone.
 
Can't help with a 94, but I have a 1954 M-64 that wears a Lyman side mount peep with the original front site that shoots just fine. I can't see why a 94 would be any different, I believe they wear the same front site system between the two at that same age.
 
A lot of guys are combining the receiver sight and a Williams Firesight front with the fibre optic insert in low light. I considered it but decided to keep my Wnny a little more traditional (not a speck of plastic). The hunters really like the things in poor light.
 
I put the williams FPS sight set on my 1958 model 94 and really like the fiber optic front. You can get different color inserts from Williams and others, some feel different colors work better in different light conditions. I only have the red one and much prefer it to the stock unit.
 
On dedicated lever gun forums they are very popular. Folks seem to like red or green inserts. I might pick a front up for my 444 to test. It already has a Williams FP with hunting adjusters.
 
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