Win 70 PF parts longevity? Ease of finding replacements?

Joel

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Hey all,

Just wanted to ask, in your experience, how often have you had to replace parts like an extractor/ejector component that are unique to Model 70 Push Feeds. What kind of round count did it take for that to happen, and is it complicated to find the right ones?

Heard its a bit of a bear with extractors as there are many different types.

Basically, wondering how well high round count guns hold up over time and what to expect.

Cheers!
 
Joel said:
Hey all,

Just wanted to ask, in your experience, how often have you had to replace parts like an extractor/ejector component that are unique to Model 70 Push Feeds. What kind of round count did it take for that to happen, and is it complicated to find the right ones?

Heard its a bit of a bear with extractors as there are many different types.

Basically, wondering how well high round count guns hold up over time and what to expect.

Cheers!
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I've owned dozens. Haven't had any real issues. Parts are available from wgp or numrich easy enough, and there are people who specialize in 70's south of the border. - dan
 
Depends on the rifle, the 223 sa and la bolt faces had the most versions. All the info you want is on Midwest gun works even though they won’t ship or sell to canada. Call up or visit Keith in Bewdley Ontario he was and may still be the warranty centre for Winchester.
might even have some 8gauge kiln guns getting worked on while you visit.

I’ve bought win parts for him in the past

The ejectors, extractors, springs are easy enough to find. A particular mag box might be tricky. I’m down to one sa 223, it’s not a range toy (so low round count and no issues).

Under appreciated rifles they are
 
Thanks guys I appreciate the answers. Been thinking of one since being undervalued they are cheap, but worried that if I shot it a lot and something broke, it would be a bear to replace
 
I bought a Win Model 70 Push Feed new from Store in 1976. I used it exclusively for deer hunting for circa 25 years or so - also got my first elk with it - our son has it now - circa 20 plus years - he also got his first elk with it. Might have been my own doing to try to "slick up" the bolt throw - by sloshing in some lapping compound into those bolt shroud threads - is a small latch that engages to hold the bolt shroud in place when you open the bolt. On that rifle, as if unusual amount of gap between bolt body and shroud (now) - about 15% of time when you open that bolt, the shroud rotates - then can not close the bolt until you manually align the shroud - as if that bolt shroud lock is now too short / worn off / whatever. I was unable to find a Winchester Model 70 replacement part. I replaced those bolt shroud locks with the identical part for a Marlin bolt rifle, which is likely as hard to find now-a-days, as that Winchester part was.
 
Potashminer said:
I bought a Win Model 70 Push Feed new from Store in 1976. I used it exclusively for deer hunting for circa 25 years or so - also got my first elk with it - our son has it now - circa 20 plus years - he also got his first elk with it. Might have been my own doing to try to "slick up" the bolt throw - by sloshing in some lapping compound into those bolt shroud threads - is a small latch that engages to hold the bolt shroud in place when you open the bolt. On that rifle, as if unusual amount of gap between bolt body and shroud (now) - about 15% of time when you open that bolt, the shroud rotates - then can not close the bolt until you manually align the shroud - as if that bolt shroud lock is now too short / worn off / whatever. I was unable to find a Winchester Model 70 replacement part. I replaced those bolt shroud locks with the identical part for a Marlin bolt rifle, which is likely as hard to find now-a-days, as that Winchester part was.
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Nonsense you had an answer and an offer more than a decade ago on 24hourcampfire. Screenshot is from today
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Bought a Model 70 push feed in 1985. Used it for informal target shooting for about 1500 rounds in .243 Win. Later had it re -barreled with a Gaillard heavy stainless fitted and chambered in .308 Win. by Dennis Sorensen. Used for F-Class for about seven years. I kept track of every round fired during my F-Class days. 7715 rounds in competition plus the first app. 1500. Nothing broken.
 
Guardsman said:
Bought a Model 70 push feed in 1985. Used it for informal target shooting for about 1500 rounds in .243 Win. Later had it re -barreled with a Gaillard heavy stainless fitted and chambered in .308 Win. by Dennis Sorensen. Used for F-Class for about seven years. I kept track of every round fired during my F-Class days. 7715 rounds in competition plus the first app. 1500. Nothing broken.
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Thats a pretty good testimonial! Happy to hear it.
 
Personally, I prefer the push feed rifles to ones with the long extractor. Easier to work on, much less complicated breeching. I've never felt the need for controlled round feeding.
 
Whats gonna puke first and how easily replacable was really what concerned me, but if it needed to be rebarreled, I understand.
 
A really hard extraction might chip the extractor lip, but apart from that I wouldn't expect any parts breakage in the extraction/ejection systems. Plunger ejectors can be frozen with fouling, corrosion, etc.
There is one issue that I have seen in well worn 70s, pre and post-64.. The safety spindle engages the cocking piece to cam it back, disengaging the cocking piece from the sear. The safety is held in this position by a rather small detent system which holds the safety in the middle and rearmost positions. If the engaging surfaces become worn, the safety spindle will no longer cam the cocking piece back. The safety cannot be applied. A slight alteration to the cocking piece will get it working again. Because this involves a critical part of the design, caution must be exercised to insure that the safety in functioning correctly and doing what is expected of it.
 
I suspect a neglected rifle, with the safety mechanism being run dry without any lubricant might develop problems faster. I have seen a fair number of used 70s with this safety issue. Might be the only real weak point in the design. Have a really good look at the bolt sleeve and the safety and sleeve locking systems. The parts are not large, and timing is important to correct function.
 
Been a while since I've seen one but I remember what you're talking about....will take another look. Appreciate your description there.

Good point on a bit of lube and keeping grit/grime out of there will help it last as long as possible.
 
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