my new win wont chamber reloaded 30 30 rounds. the rcbs die doesnt size the last bit above the rim and the bolt wont quite push it into the chamber. new rounds work fine. my marlin xlr chambers them fine. just thought of something they were shot first in the marlin. maybe i will have to shoot new brass in the win first. do other die brands size closer down to the rim?
win 94 reloads wont chamber
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were these rounds fired in your particular gun?
I ran into this with a Kimber 223 once, i could only use brass that had been fired in that rifle. (Tight chamber specs)
Small base dies might be available for the 30-30, you could try those.
I ran into this with a Kimber 223 once, i could only use brass that had been fired in that rifle. (Tight chamber specs)
Small base dies might be available for the 30-30, you could try those.
You can remove a little from your shell holder with a lathe or even carefully with a file to get the case further into your sizing die. Sometimes just using a different shell holder will do the job as that vary somewhat in height from manufacturer to manufacturer.
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Are you sure the bullets are seated deep enough? The marlin might have a longer throat that will allow for it.
Try seating one 1/8" deeper and see if it works then.
Try seating one 1/8" deeper and see if it works then.
This isn't a smithy question. However, are you using a full length sizer die? Lever actions require FL sizing. If so, it sounds like you haven't got the die set up properly. The shell holder should just kiss the bottom of the die with the ram all the way up. Plus you need to check the case lengths and OAL with the bullet.
Small base dies are generally only available for cartridges used regularly in semi-autos. In any case, it's one or the other. FL or SB. The die will be stamped with SB or FL.
Small base dies are generally only available for cartridges used regularly in semi-autos. In any case, it's one or the other. FL or SB. The die will be stamped with SB or FL.
its full length and the die hits the shellholder i tried seating the ullet deeper. If i load max loads the cases stert to get tight in the marlin chamber too after several reloads so i know its not sizing on the bottom. Im going to try to keep my brass seperate which i didnt really want to do. The die doesnt get nearly close enough i can tell by looking at the sized case and the way the lever wants to stop well before a round is chambered all the way
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Are you crimping your bullets? The 30-30 is a thinner case and sometimes if the crimping die is set too low, then the die will actually push the bullet and case neck back and form a ridge in the shoulder area where the main body of the case slopes downward to the neck diameter.
A die set to crimp bullets in any other place than the crimping groove of the bullet will also cause this.
Try full length sizing a case, then put that case into the rifle manually to see if it fits. It would also appear that your Marlin has a bit larger chamber than your Winchester. Try resizing some cases that were originally fired in the Winchester and see if you still have the same problem.
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Are you crimping your bullets? The 30-30 is a thinner case and sometimes if the crimping die is set too low, then the die will actually push the bullet and case neck back and form a ridge in the shoulder area where the main body of the case slopes downward to the neck diameter.
A die set to crimp bullets in any other place than the crimping groove of the bullet will also cause this.
Try full length sizing a case, then put that case into the rifle manually to see if it fits. It would also appear that your Marlin has a bit larger chamber than your Winchester. Try resizing some cases that were originally fired in the Winchester and see if you still have the same problem.
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No like i said they were fired in my marlin and i didnt really want to segregate cases. I dont crimp. It looks like i will have to keep cases just for th winchester like somebody said maybe another brand of die. All my rcbs dies seem to size only so far down i thought it was because the cases didnt expand so close to thebottom but it appears therimmed case does.
Make sure your depriming rod is not set too deep and bottoming out on the base of the case, not letting your die go all the way to the shell holder. The pin should just protrue enough to knock out the primer. Without a case in the shell holder the die touches the shell holder? If not adjust deeper until it does.
I"m sorry, I didn't see where you had said they were fired in your Marlin. (Grazing posts too quickly)
Separating is only a minor PIA and easy if you just buy different brands of brass.
Dies are also subject to tolerances, maybe a different set would be all you need.
