I know that without pics it is very hard to determine value. so how about ball park Win. 94 - 44-40 ser# 198420 so DOM 1900. It is in good plus maybe better. Wood is good no cracks or gouges , no pitting bore is good with strong rifling. I will get pic as soon as I can. But for now what do you think.
Win 94 value
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The caliber is the one sticking point for me. I can't seem to find a niche where 44-40 is useful to me. If I was hunting outlaws it would be fine. I think it would be worth no more than $1000, either as a showpiece or cowboy action shooter. It is a 122 yr old gun and does have value, but I would only want a 94 in a hunting caliber such as 30-30, 32 special, 307/356/375 win as these are useful to me as hunting guns. 44mag is nice too.. These 94's can command $12-1500 if nice enough
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Model 94's weren't chambered in .44-40 back then, so either it's a 92, or a rebarrel.
Assuming it's an 1892, used but with no major condition issues, you're looking at $1700 +. Prices on collectible guns have been creeping up lately.
gunrunner100
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As has been said, it's most likely a Model 1892. I believe the 44 WCF (44-40) was the most plentiful chambering but still highly sought. Condition is everything and pics would definitely help in evaluating.
Yes condition is key, but also the configuration makes a huge diffrence in value.
Hex, or octagon barrel, or round.
Full mag, or half mag, or button mag.
Carbine but stock, shotgun but stock or cresent.
Checkering or not
grade of wood
also length of barrel, and type sites
Hex, or octagon barrel, or round.
Full mag, or half mag, or button mag.
Carbine but stock, shotgun but stock or cresent.
Checkering or not
grade of wood
also length of barrel, and type sites
Brutus
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The only M94 that I know of factory chambered in 44-40 was a Post 64 commemorative IIRC. Pounder, I think you know this too.
Never happened. The 1892 was chambered in 25,32,38 and 44. All basically handgun cartridges thus short and able to function in the 1892 action which is basically a baby 1886. The 1894 was loaded in 25/35, 3030, 32/40,32 special and 38/55 and nothing else in that time frame.
Why would Winchester re-engineer the model 1894 to digest the 44/40 when they already produced the 1892 in 44/40? Enlighten me.
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Yer right Looky. I bought a new 94 in 44-40 back in the late 70's. That rifle had one of the worst bores I've seen in a new rifle. Button rifling showed so much chatter marking that it was sewer pipe ugly. On top of that, the chamber was a tad sloppier than spec & the muzzle crown was not cut true. Must have been built on a Monday during a labor dispute. No worries as my dealer took it back and I got another rifle from the rack instead.
gunrunner100
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I too had a late production 94, although chambered in 44 Rem Mag. Horrible thought...
Judging by the OP's DOM tag, it was most likely a 92.
Brutus
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Makes a person wonder, is it not outside the possibility these poor quality M94s in so called 44-40 were built with crapped out (read worn out) 44 Rem Mag equipment via the decision of unscrupulous company exects ???
If the barrels were crap maybe just rechamber to (Edit, 44-40?) from 44 Rem Mag.
Regarding 1970ish production?
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Hard to say. I'd never seen button rifling in a Winchester center fire rifle before or since. All I know about that rifle that it was a plain jane 94 with walnut furniture & 20" barrel.Trying a rechamber job on that barrel would have been futile without also a rebore to .429" with cut rifling as the 44-40 bore standard is .427".
That rifle went back to the distributor.
I stopped in at the range right after I bought the rifle and took a few shots with factory ammo at 20 yds on an 8x11" target. Only 1 bullet hit the paper on the low right and the hole showed signs of bullet yaw. Who knows? Coulda been botched .429 with a 44-40 chamber. Glad I ditched the bugger.
Turns out that these .44-40 94's were made in Canada. I reckon the inspector that missed my one was on Labatt 50.
Dis one be from 1975 and my one was from '76.
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