Win 9422 and rossi puma lever problems.

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Hoping someone can provide some guidance on a couple of levers I'm having problems with.

Win 9422. Loads the 22lr, fires it but when I work the lever, the empty case is still attached to the bolt face and just sits there. A slight finger tap and the case drops free, turn rifle upside and shake out the loose case.

Rossi puma in 38/357. Have had a few issues with this one. Latest range problems: had a few stove pipe problems with live rounds. Then after shooting a bit, I would work the lever. The round would sit below the breech face of the bolt, so it wouldn't load. I would put my car key in and lightly wiggle, round would ge .loose and then turn the rifle upside down and shake the live round out. All subsequent rounds would do the same.

I can post a couple pics if that helps.

Anyone have any ideas?
 
Thanks. Ya, kind of figured it was that. Bought it and I think it sat for a very long time with the previous owner. Fantastic condition for a rifle built in1972, so I'm thinking dried grease and oil could actually be the issue.
 
Either that or power residue.
That guy in the vid gets a little crazy! But shows how to get at it.
Numrich has ejectors listed not sure about WesternGun having troubles logging in today.
 
Pic of the Rossi

Not much to see. Hard ot see the depth, but if i recall correctly, i believe the cartridge is at the level of the tube magazine, so it isnt lifting it up to be fed into the barrel.

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I'm no expert, but I have had a few of these apart. Are you the tinker type? Working on lever actions is generally not for the faint of heart...

What do you know about the ownership history of the rifle? You said "it seemed to feed" the first time out. Do you mean it fed, but poorly? Or you just didn't see any feeding issues? And, over how many rounds?

If you cycle the action without ammunition, can you see the cartridge lifter working?

Aside from that, I'd guess that one or both of the cartridge guides are out of spec, loose, or missing. Might have been reassembled incorrectly, if someone was wrenching on it before you got it.
 
alpining said:
I'm no expert, but I have had a few of these apart. Are you the tinker type? Working on lever actions is generally not for the faint of heart...

What do you know about the ownership history of the rifle? You said "it seemed to feed" the first time out. Do you mean it fed, but poorly? Or you just didn't see any feeding issues? And, over how many rounds?

If you cycle the action without ammunition, can you see the cartridge lifter working?

Aside from that, I'd guess that one or both of the cartridge guides are out of spec, loose, or missing. Might have been reassembled incorrectly, if someone was wrenching on it before you got it.
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Never worked on levers, so a bit hesitant, but am going to see what i can do. It fed the first time out but a couple times a loaded round stovepiped. dont think i put more than 40-60 rounds in the 2 times i had it out.

Bought it from a friend, but hadnt shot until many months later. He got it from another friend that used it in cowboy action shooting. its possible my friend didnt even shoot it. he does that.

ill check the cycling tonight
 
The stovepiping of live rounds is a common issue when shooting short (i.e. .38sp) ammunition and/or ammunition with SWC or other profiles that stray greatly from round. My gun will actually toss them right out sometimes. There are mods to fix that but it's not something I have ever bothered with. The failure to feed is likely centered around you shell guides as mentioned.
 
Yeah, the 1892 action was designed to feed bottleneck and tapered cartridges. Asking them to handle straight wall cartridges is a lot, and then different lengths of straight walled cartridges (e.g. 38 and 357) is harder still.
 
Light Infantry said:
Never worked on levers, so a bit hesitant, but am going to see what i can do. It fed the first time out but a couple times a loaded round stovepiped. dont think i put more than 40-60 rounds in the 2 times i had it out.

Bought it from a friend, but hadnt shot until many months later. He got it from another friend that used it in cowboy action shooting. its possible my friend didnt even shoot it. he does that.

ill check the cycling tonight
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Since it was used in cowboy action shooting - those guy shoot a lot and parts wears or if any mods was made to make it ‘faster’..well who know.
I would start with a good clean up..brake cleaner and air to blow any debris.
What about the ammo ? Factory or reloads ? I own two..one in .357 and .44 mag and has no problems with them. My buddy got a Henry in .38/.357 and no matter what - the gun refuse to cycle .38 Special brass but work fine with .357…
 
Lever rifles with mag tewbs need flat faced bullets.
Pointed bullets don't back up well when pushed by the follower.
They kick out as per yer exampull.

My s'perience fwiw.

You could pull the follower and put a dimple in the center of it.
How big ahh dimple?
No eye-deer.
 
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