Win M-70, pre-64 300 H & H

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I have a buddy who needs to value one of these for estate purposes (no, its not for sale and its not mine) and I am looking for some estimates on value. Full description is as follows: 1961 date of manufacture, plain wood stock (standard grade) plastic butt plate, 2 or 3 small damaged areas in checkering, some dents, scratches, flaking varnish, oil soaked areas, original sling swivels, Bore excellent, metal finish 85%, no rust, usuall hunting wear, front sight hood there, Obvious problems: stock was cracked from behind recoil lug to rear action screw--home-done acru glas repair (poorly done, voids, wood not properly cleaned--compound not sticking), trigger is bent and does not line up properly with sear, missing forend screw.

I don't collect these rifles so do not keep up with their values but I understand that the later production ones are not as valuable especially if they are in anything other than mint condition. As a hunting rig I would estimate the value at $700-$800. Any other opinions out there?

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i'd agree with the $700-800. I would buy one sight unseen for $700, but would ask for pics and an inspection period if $800 was the asking price

if he wants a forend screw I have one or two laying around he can have
 
As I understand it, model 70s in 300H&H are particularly sought after. Ben someone-or-other used one to win the 1000 yard wimbledon shoot ages ago
 
prosper said:
As I understand it, model 70s in 300H&H are particularly sought after.
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Maybe, in good, original condition. This gun would be a very worthy hunting gun, but has some "issues" that would bring it out of interest to a collector.

prosper said:
Ben someone-or-other used one to win the 1000 yard wimbledon shoot ages ago
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"In 1935, Ben Comfort won the prestigious 1000 yard Wimbledon Cup with his 300 H&H which led to Winchester chambering for the calibre in 1937."

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Sounds like a "barreled action" in reasonably good condition with a "bubba'd" stock that is basically a "throw away" .... still worth $ 500 - $600 - and would make the basis of a nice custom rifle
... rebarrel (375 H&H would be a natural) restock & a new aftermarket trigger.

It's continued role as a "shooter" is perhaps suspect with a wood-soaked, finish falling-off & cracked/repaired stock.
 
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A replacement stock, if he can find one, is going to set him back $500ish, as I was told be several Winchester "experts" when I wanted to restore a pre-'64 .264 Win Mag - which is apprently the most rare of the chamberings.

My estimate on value, based on reported condition, is no more than $600, and I would not personally pay more than perhaps $500.

Free advice, worth what you paid for it.

Doug
 
Doug said:
A replacement stock, if he can find one, is going to set him back $500ish, as I was told be several Winchester "experts" when I wanted to restore a pre-'64 .264 Win Mag - which is apprently the most rare of the chamberings.

My estimate on value, based on reported condition, is no more than $600, and I would not personally pay more than perhaps $500.

Free advice, worth what you paid for it.

Doug
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$500 sounds about right for the above mentioned firearm.

I know a fellow with an origional Winchester, pre 64 in .264 Win Mag and have tried to get it from him on a few occasions. Last time we chatted, all I remember hearing was "cold dead hands". I guess I have to wait a few more years :D
 
Thanks Mister buckbrush.

I was repeating what I was told about rarity, by several guys who are Winchester experts, two of whom are on this board. If you know more than them, that is a wonderful thing, and if you don't mind I will add your name to the list of folks I send for opinions about old Winchesters. Because I am NOT an expert, and I do frequently get questions from folks about old gun values.

Doug
 
SuperCub said:
I'd say that the action alone would approach $650 - $750.
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Too much IMO. But if you want to pay $750 for an action in H&H length I think I might know where I can get one for ya. :D

My $500 estimation was for a rifle described as being beat from years of service, pre 64 or not. If it was in very good shape my estimation would have been much higher of course...
 
I think prices have changed a bit in the last few years. Even in that condition the gun is worth $700+ easy. As rgv said I'd buy it for $700 unseen. A minty one for $1200 is too good to be true.
 
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