Win Mod 50...stuck/seized chamber?

DarkSyd

DarkSyd

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Hello...
I've got a 'new to me" 50, and figured I'd give it a cleaning before taking it out, but the chamber appears to be seized in the barrel, as near as I can tell. The barrel on my 59 turns freely once the FA is removed...on the 50...it turns maybe a 1/16 of a revolution (lug won't even turn past the mag tube) and won't go further. With the bolt back a bit...I can see it is trying to turn the chamber along with the barrel. Am wondering if maybe it's seized up good? Previous owner said he hadn't fired it.

Besides penetrating oil and letting it sit (which I'm doing)...any other tricks I might try? I don't want to reef on it too hard...not sure what that might do the chamber.
 
I am a model 50 and 59 fan. With poor maintenance they can develop rust on the outside of the chamber and the inside of the barrel. You are on the right track with using some sort of penetrant to help break it free. Just take your time and on occasion use light taps from a plastic mallet to encourage the chamber to come free. Hopefully the corrosion is not so bad to damage the gun.
Darryl
 
Thanks Darryl. Any tips on where to try to get the penetrant? I've applied liberally at the outside of the barrel/receiver junction, and tried to hose some ballistol inside the receiver...I'm guessing that's about as good as I can do.
 
You’ll need a special socket to remove the buttstock if you decide to take it that far. The model 50 bolt is interesting to disassemble and takes patience to get just right on the reassembly. Quite a neat design.
 
Buckmastr said:
You’ll need a special socket to remove the buttstock if you decide to take it that far. The model 50 bolt is interesting to disassemble and takes patience to get just right on the reassembly. Quite a neat design.
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Didn't go quite that far, as I don't have a Model 50 manual, and the info for the 59 I've got doesn't cover it either. I've found some info on how to do it on youtube...ya, looks quite different than other stuff I've got here, but doesn't look too bad as long as you know what you are doing. Also found some info on time both guns that I was unaware of...good to know!

It is a very neat design!
 
On shotgunworld there is a sticky under Winchester shotguns dedicated to the 50/59. It has tons of good info on repair and disassembly etc. It also goes into properly timing the gun to run right. Tip, a good set of needle nose pliers used in the open position will turn out the buffer tube on the 50/59.

Darryl
 
Here's a photo showing both the 12 and 20 ga stock removal tool I made.

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Grouse Man said:
Damn, that's a good-looking gun. Don't know much about them.
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They are one of the softest shooting shotguns made. Some claim them to be butt heavy but all 4 of mine have vented ribs that balances the gun out quite nicely.

The main thing with the Model 50 is to keep the floating chamber clean and lubricated. No need to go over board with the floating chamber but once a year is good. So easy to do as the barrel slips off with the forearm screw and half a turn of the barrel and the chamber just slides out. Timing is easy; with the bolt locked back there should be about an 1/8" left in the rearward bolt travel. What's nice with the Model 50 is no gas operation like the Super X-1. I have one of them but prefer the Model 50 for simplicity and flat shooting.
 
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