Win748 for 30-30

glycerin

CGN Regular
Rating - 100%
33   0   0
Location
sudbury
In 2010 I helped a friend load 170 gn rnf with 34.9 gn win 748(under max). Modern loading books now state 32 gn is max? for 30-30.

Have the win lots changed or have the lawyers become worried about old, shaky model 94's?
Hope these reloads from 2010 are safe to shoot.
 
All I've used is Win 748 32gr/170gr/mag primer or 34.5gr /150gr bullet mag primer.As for your loads ...........you'll soon see what the brass looks like.Don't know how you came up with that load hopefully not randomly picked out of a book .Best to start 2-3 gr under max and work your way up from there watching for pressure signs.
 
max load
hornady book 36.5g
nozler book 34g
sierra book 31.7g
speer book 34g
lyman cast book35g
hodgdon book 32g
Winchester book 32g
depende on the projectile brand
whatch for pressure sing on the head
 
I pressure test with a pressure gun.

A 30-30 will be a long way over pressure before you see it in the brass or primer.

A modern rifle will handle a bit of over max pressures, but you should not be there intentionally.

35g is plenty of 748. No need for more, and 34 would be a better choice, next time.
 
Edit, Ganderite posted while I was typing my reply below, and my posting is not meant to be a insult at Ganderite. It simply means I used the Hornady manual for loading my 30-30.

The latest Lyman 50th edition 30-30 rifle loading data lists 36.5 grns of 748 with a 150 RN Hornady bullet and 35.6 grns of 748 with a Hornady 170 grain RN bullet.
The loading data in the same Lyman manual for a 14 inch Contender 30-30 lists 38.5 of 748 and a 150 grain Hornady pointed soft bullet.

The 9th edition of the Hornady manual for the 30-30 lists 38.9 grains of 748 with a 150 Hornady RN and 36.5 grains of 748 with the 170 grain Hornady FP.

That being said I have loaded my 30-30 Winchester Trapper model with a 16 1/2 inch barrel with 38.0 grains of 748 and the Hornady 150 grain RN since 1982. And my primers are protruding after these cases are fired and I have cases over 30 years old I'm still using.

If the primer is protruding from the base of the case after firing it means the chamber pressure was not great enough to push the case back against the bolt face.

And if the primer is protruding it means the primer pressure on the bolt face is 400 psi or less. And the 30-30 is rated at 38,000 cup or 42,000 psi.

Loading data varies because firearms and the reloading components vary, plus the testing methods vary and this data is ball park. The data could be from a copper crusher, a pressure transducer or a strain gauge glued to the barrel.

Below my 1950 Long Branch No.4 top and my fake Jungle Carbine on the bottom. ;)

HwPDC8U.jpg
 
Last edited:
We used Lyman 47, 34.9 win 748 with 170 gn jkt RNF. No signs of pressure, harvested many deer with it. I suspect lawyers are worried about 100 year old sloppy 94's in recent loading manuals.
Thanx for response.
 
Back
Top Bottom