Winchester 100 308 Win short base dies?

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I just picked up a good condition Win 100 semi auto and was looking for some dies, should I bother tracking down some short base dies or just go for regular dies? Anybody load for one of these can share some knowledge
 
I have loaded for a 760 30-06 that worked much better with SB dies just pondering if the Winchesters have tight chambers causing problems, RCBS does recommend the SB dies for semi's although they are the only ones that make them.
 
I don't use SB dies and have yet to have a problem in any rifle. I load for one lever, one pump and several semis.

If it was me, I would ask a buddy for some full length sized ammo and see if it chambers ok. Then decide on what die to buy.
 
The 760 was the only one I ever had trouble, would fire factory fine it kept jamming on full length sized cases I talked to a gunsmith he suggested the SB dies problem solved. I used the same regular dies for a Garand and a Browning bar with no troubles. I think I'm going to pick up a regular die set and give it a whirl, can't find any SB anyway I was just enquiring if anybody ever had problems loading for the Win 100
 
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Late last year/early this year I did some shooting/reloading with my nephew's Model 100 Winchester in .308 Winchester. I fired 1 box of Remington Corelokt ammo, then reloaded them 5 times each. I used a normal RCBS full length sizing die (made in 1979). Out of 100 reloads fired, I only had one malfunction . . . a case that stovepiped on ejection.
 
My father told me the 'ol 760 .30-06 needs SB dies too. FL just didn't cut the mustard when him and his buddy reloaded for it in the 70's/80's. It gets factory ammo since it doesn't see enough use to worry about ammo costs. I use Lee dies and have yet to have a problem in any semi or lever. However I was told all my Lee FL dies are actually out of spec. At a local store I asked if the seating die in a Hornady 2 die set crimps or not. I said it was for a semi and was told I can't use FL dies in a semi because they only size the neck and shoulder, not the body. I corrected him and said he's thinking of a bump die. He agreed and said that's what FL dies do. I told him all my Lee dies size the body of cases and I've fired thousands of reloads in various semi's without issue. I was told my Lee dies were out of spec and the reamers wear through the production run so mine were all the first of the batch. Yeah. ALL of them. Lol. Imagine that. I was told I needed a super expensive Redding 3 die set. My out of spec Lee dies will eventually cause an accident. I was even rudely told to google it. Nobody answered whether or not the Hornady seating die crimps. I told him he's welcome to his opinion and walked out. I geuss after loading and firing so many thousands of rounds without a single failure, other people's opinions of what I'm doing wrong tend not to matter. Point is, Lee advertises their dies as working in place of SB dies. I believe they guarantee it or something like that but I forget the exact details.
 
I ordered some Lee dies with the crimp die included. SB dies for a semi or pump seems to be the exception not the rule, the one 760 was the only time I ever had a problem. Removing some material from the shell holder sounds like a good idea although it could set the shoulder back causing a misfire, something to experiment with if you blow a shellholder not really a big deal. Thanks for all the reply's
 
With the Win 100 you have to be rough with the action while loading.Pull the cocking handle all the way back and let it slam forward ......not gently easing it closed.No problem with RCBS FL dies.........Harold
 
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