Winchester 1873 40-82

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Haven't seen it in a few years.
Hanging on a wall.
Seems only a half box of ammo went down the barrel.
A fellow bought it from an old chap who is now an old chap.
If my memory serves me correct, it's in above average shape.
I have an opportunity to purchase this rifle.
Can't answer any questions on this lever as I have said, it's been a while
since I've seen it.
Any ball park figure on $ one would offer for it?
Sorry for being vague on condition and not even sure that this caliber exists.
Working on my memory here.
Thanks for any and all info.
Regards.
 
Probably a 44-40 (does that sound right?) and they can go anywhere from a $600 piece of junk to well into the thousands if it's in excellent original condition. Really depends what it is... If the rifle is complete with most of the 'original' finish left (no rust or pitting). The bore & action are good & tight I'd say $2500 would be a steal.
That's purely a guess, as I've never saw this rifle or even no what caliber it is...
Look around at online shops here in Canada not the U.S., as they will fetch a lot more down there. This will give you an idea of what they go for retail. I seen them go for as high as $4500 for a nice older reblued one with a tang rear sight & as low as $1200 here on this site.
 
Find out what cal. it is because bullets can be hard to come by. If it is a ,44 40 great. I own a .44 40 model 94 and can find .44 40 bullets but have to look sometimes. If you what this gun to look at and not shoot much cal. is not important.
 
Ammo is scarce and pricey for the .40-82. Its ballistics are weak by modern standards, but my grandfather thought it was the best moose gun ever. Likely a Model 1886 Winchester. Unless it's a Model 1895 Marlin.
 
Kamlooky, you'll have to be a bit more specific. The Winchester 1873 was never made to chamber the .40-82. It was chambered in 44 WCF (44-40), 38 WCF (38-40), 32 WCF (32-20) and .22 rimfire. The only Winchester that was chambered in .40-82 was the Model 1886 (not counting the Model 1885 .... they had more chamberings that you can shake a stick at). Photos and a detailed description will really help. The price varies hugely depending upon condition and whether anyone has messed with it. Re-blueing, sanding and refinishing the stocks, drilling extra holes, etc. pretty much wipe out any collectors value). If it is an honest, unmessed with gun that is in well-used but fully functioning condition, you'd probably be looking at very roughly $1,200 to $1,500 for a Model 1873 and very roughly $2,000 to $2,200 for a Model 1886. However, those are very rough estimates. I could be too high, I might be too low.
 
This is a Winchester 1886 in 40-82 WCF:
188640-82.jpg
 
Thanks John.
What would you put for a kerching $$$ on that pretty creature?
No, eye'm not asking if it is for sale.
Just trying to get some sort of value here.
 
This was an 1886 that was restored to what it would have looked like back when it was made by Winchester so comparing it to an untouched original wouldn't be fair.

An original gun that was stored and handled carefully through the years could command more than $10,000 plus, depending on features, special options, chambering, desirability to buyers, etc. If it is indeed an 1873, different pricing will apply.

Kamlooky, how about posting some pix of the gun in question, please?

Thanks!
 
I actually didn't pay to do the restoration. This was something that Win 38-55, the previous owner of this rifle, did with a fellow down in the US by the name of Mike Hunter who runs a shop called Hunter Restorations. Cost of the donor gun plus what Mike did for the restoration and other incidental costs put a minimum figure of $5000.00 on this rifle.
 
You can just make .40-82's out of .45-90's. Get your mitts on a set of dies. RCBS makes them I think. Find some 90 brass, a mould, powder and get loading.

You know, he never did clarify what model/calibre the rifle in question is.
 
Be very, very cautious when dealing with so called winchester collectors, wheeler, dealers etc. Most of them are snakes in the grass, real parasites, would cheat their own mother for a dollar. Do your homework, go to gun shows and see what the crooks are selling theirs for. Then you will see the light. Again there are some honest ones, but they are rare, kind of like the 50-100-450 86s:p I know of one and have shot some of his rare ones. He has so many stories of people getting ripped off, not for the faint of heart. One story, he sold a winchester at a local gun show, gun had been flipped a few times and someone tried sell it back to him with a huge mark-up all within the a few hours. F**king sad. They didn't know he was the original seller:rolleyes: Anyway good luck.
 
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Win 38-55 said:
Kamlooky, you'll have to be a bit more specific. The Winchester 1873 was never made to chamber the .40-82. It was chambered in 44 WCF (44-40), 38 WCF (38-40), 32 WCF (32-20) and .22 rimfire. The only Winchester that was chambered in .40-82 was the Model 1886 (not counting the Model 1885 .... they had more chamberings that you can shake a stick at). Photos and a detailed description will really help. The price varies hugely depending upon condition and whether anyone has messed with it. Re-blueing, sanding and refinishing the stocks, drilling extra holes, etc. pretty much wipe out any collectors value). If it is an honest, unmessed with gun that is in well-used but fully functioning condition, you'd probably be looking at very roughly $1,200 to $1,500 for a Model 1873 and very roughly $2,000 to $2,200 for a Model 1886. However, those are very rough estimates. I could be too high, I might be too low.
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This pretty much sums it up. There are SO many variables that it is pointless to even speculate.
Funny thing with American made guns, when you refinish them it most often doesn't add value, unless you are talking the Doug Turnbull treatment but then you're buying the personage of the restorer, yet with English guns it is a excepted and encouraged practice.
Thats a nice restore on that 40-82, but if it was original they would be asking $20K US down south.
 
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johnl said:
Be very, very cautious when dealing with so called winchester collectors, wheeler, dealers etc. Most of them are snakes in the grass, real parasites, would cheat their own mother for a dollar. Do your homework, go to gun shows and see what the crooks are selling theirs for. Then you will see the light. Again there are some honest ones, but they are rare, kind of like the 50-450-100 86s:p I know of one and have shot some of his rare ones. He has so many stories of people getting ripped off, not for the faint of heart. One story, he sold a winchester at a local gun show, gun had been flipped a few times and someone tried sell it back to him with a huge mark-up all within the a few hours. F**king sad. They didn't know he was the original seller:rolleyes: Anyway good luck.
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No such gun
signed
Winchester Collector
Truck Driver
Dealer
Snake in grass
Real parasite
Son of own Mother
Crooks
Faint of heart
Fcuking sad
original seller
Preacher
Sunday School Teacher
Carpenter
anybody else I forgot? You paint a pretty broad stroke with your brush
 
Oops I mean, 50-100-450

Hey Meanea, I don't know you but the truth often hurts, doesn't it. If you are a honest guys, don't worry about it my comments, I'm not talking about you, your one of the exceptions. I'm talking about mine and some of my friends experiences on the coast. Oh BTW, I like your name.


WinShooter summed it up. If the gun is as he says "Thats a nice restore on that 40-82, but if it was original they would be asking $20K US down south" But don't worry Meana some nice honest winchester would offer him $500 saying that he is doing him a favour and flip it either down south or to their greedy friends for a nice tidy profit. Then brag about what the poor sap don't know what he had:( Seen it many times and by a few wheeler dealers. Funny thing though, they never seem to buy amongst themselves. Wonder why hmmmm.
 
Here you go, guys. This should put it in perspective - this is what the big boys are spending:

www.thewinchestergrove.com

Pretty sad that the Winchester market up here is pretty anemic. Other sites such as gunbroker, basspro, and Cabelas have similar "for sale" ads. Yeah, I know, this is the top end and maybe a little too pricey but I've found that when you're buying up here that's what EVERYBODY quotes as the going rate. I recently sold about 75 Winchesters, by no means were any of them museum quality, but the hassles I had locally does take some of the fun out of it.
 
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