Winchester 1892 SRC 44-40 value

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Good day,

stumbled across 2 old rifles hidden in my in-laws attic since they have moved into a nursing home. Turns out he didn't get rid of them as he said years ago because of the 'Liberal BS registry'

One is a 1892 44 WCF Saddle ring carbine and the other is an Indian Lee Enfield 303 SMLE full wood stock. both seem to be in good shape to me for their age and his father did use them for hunting but my wife said that her father didn't hunt and they have not been used in 50 years.

I did post this in the general rifle discussion but a person recommended that I post the 44-40 in this section to be a little more specific.

I would like to sell them but not too sure as to asking price. there is a lot of info out there on the 1892 but most from American sites, it was made in 1913 from the serial number and has lots of usage makes. But the blueing looks not bad and there is no rust or pitting I can see. I need to pull through the barrels to get a good look at the rifling and get the dust out. I am hopefully going to get together with a gun smith this week to get an idea what condition I should advertise them in and a starting price. also to make sure that they are in usable condition.

As this site has a lot of people with knowledge on these things I figured more info can't hurt!

Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks
Tim

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Good morning Tim,

I will be glad to help. I own 40 Model 1892's and have been working on a research survey of them for +7 years now and have looked at more than 13,000 individual rifles in that effort. Your rifle was indeed manufactured during 1913 and is a "saddle ring carbine" configuration. The 44 WCF caliber was the largest offered in the Model 1892 line. Additionally, Your rifle has the DCP proof stamp marked on the top of the barrel behind the rear sight. This was applied at the Winchester factory by Canadian inspectors who looked at a large number (12,000) of identical rifle which were purchased by Britain for use in WW I. If you will send me your email address I can forward an article which will shed more light on these guns.
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The rifle is all original and has not been altered in any way. I think you will find that the bore will be very nice also. I would expect the rifle to sell in the $2500 to $3000 range if it were listed in Gunbroker.com The bit of added history will definitely help. Let me know if you have further questions and I will be happy to try to answer.

Michael
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twobitrifles said:
Good morning Tim,

I will be glad to help. I own 40 Model 1892's and have been working on a research survey of them for +7 years now and have looked at more than 13,000 individual rifles in that effort. Your rifle was indeed manufactured during 1913 and is a "saddle ring carbine" configuration. The 44 WCF caliber was the largest offered in the Model 1892 line. Additionally, Your rifle has the DCP proof stamp marked on the top of the barrel behind the rear sight. This was applied at the Winchester factory by Canadian inspectors who looked at a large number (12,000) of identical rifle which were purchased by Britain for use in WW I. If you will send me your email address I can forward an article which will shed more light on these guns.
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The rifle is all original and has not been altered in any way. I think you will find that the bore will be very nice also. I would expect the rifle to sell in the $2500 to $3000 range if it were listed in Gunbroker.com The bit of added history will definitely help. Let me know if you have further questions and I will be happy to try to answer.

Michael
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Hi Michael,
Been awhile, hope you are doing well. Great information as always on the 1892s, you are a precious resource when it comes to that Model. However, I would caution that while the prices you suggest could easily be realized on GB in then American market, those prices would not be realized up here. Not sure I recall any similar condition DCP carbines go anything North of $1500 CDN. Nice to see it remains all original though.
Best,
Matt
 
Matt74 said:
Hi Michael,
Been awhile, hope you are doing well. Great information as always on the 1892s, you are a precious resource when it comes to that Model. However, I would caution that while the prices you suggest could easily be realized on GB in then American market, those prices would not be realized up here. Not sure I recall any similar condition DCP carbines go anything North of $1500 CDN. Nice to see it remains all original though.
Best,
Matt
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Thanks so much for chiming in Matt. I obviously do not follow the Canadian market at all. What has been surprising is some of the sales which I have watched for rifles that are in terrible condition or obviously put together with non original parts sell in the $600 to $800 range. Some of these had about $150 worth of parts value only. It is always surprising what some people are willing to buy. "Down here" guys love the 44 WCF carbines and they always get more attention. The added historical ties to this rifle would help also. But I certainly understand the difference in the market conditions. I have heard the same thing from a few collector in New Zealand where prices are low because the buying market is so much smaller.

Thanks again for you help.
Michael
 
Gotta echo Matt74's comment - I have 3 DC marked SRCs, & did not pay over $1000 for any of the, ($600, $900 & $1000) all within the last 5 years. It just does not seem to add value up here for some reason. ? ? (and please don't ask for serials)
 
sean69 said:
Gotta echo Matt74's comment - I have 3 DC marked SRCs, & did not pay over $1000 for any of the, ($600, $900 & $1000) all within the last 5 years. It just does not seem to add value up here for some reason. ? ? (and please don't ask for serials)
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You could PM the numbers to me. I really am trustworthy.
Michael
 
twobitrifles said:
You could PM the numbers to me. I really am trustworthy.
Michael
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We have a 'liberal problem' here at the moment - a little worse than usual, they are basically counting guns now & best not to feed them any extra info :(


Also for you to consider is the exchange rate, your $3000 SRC on gunbroker looks like almost $3800 and change to us at the moment. :(

Winchesters of any description DO fetch a higher price at any auction (i.e. gunbroker) usually 20% - 30% more (strangely the amount of most premiums + tax)

that gun the OP has up there - in Canada - on this board....

$800: "fire sale" it would be gone in seconds - hell, I'd buy it

$1000: probably gone the same day, hell I'd buy it - but make him pay shipping

$1200: probably sit around for a few days, maybe a week possibly up to two

$1500: it will sell eventually but might take a couple months... or more.

he could also part it out - if done properly get about $1500/$1600

Thats Canadian dollars ... in Texas dollars that's $50, $75 & $100 respecitvely hhaha :)
 
johnl said:
To the OP, be very very careful. A lot Winchester hucksters are more than eager to pay peanuts for a family heirloom only to flip it for a tidy profit.
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Funny - the one I bought for $900 (the first one I bought) I know for a fact the guy who sold it to me bought it from a widow for $200!

At least I got him down from his original $1200.
 
Thanks all for the insight and help with this. I had a lot of people interested and elected not to list it but just sell it to one of them. It was turning into a full time job learning about this rifle and I really didn't have the time right now. I feel I got fair value for it from the info provided here. Maybe could have got a little more if I listed it and held out, but I have too many things on my plate right now so I need to move on.
Thanks again,
Tim
 
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