Winchester 1894 Saddlering Carbine DOM 1898 What's it worth?

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I would like to put my 110 year old rifle up for sale. Condition is 90% on blueing and stock.

Should I send a letter to the Cody museum or is there a better way to find its value? My book from 2003 says approx $3000. Is that accurate?

I mis-posted this in shotguns and one guy has already said something about the book price. Hey guy, that's why I posted. I don't think it's accurate, thats why I wrote "is that accurate?".
 
If you want somewhat accurate values & you can't post a pic at least an precise description of condition is nessessary! :rolleyes:

Based on info provided
M-1894 SRC in some unknown caliber & some unknown shape

Just over $50. up to just under $5000.00
 
Sorry, Ill take pictures this week.

Winchester 1894 Serial # 1336XX 20 inch Carbine in 30-30. Full length magazine. Walnut uncheckered stock. Frame is tapped for side mount site plate and has saddle ring hole but no ring. The gun looks nearly new as it was used for demonstrations most of it's life. No cracks, no worn off blue. Cycles tight as if new.
 
Since it is tapped for side mount, value has really fallen off. The original was not tapped, so collector value is gone. Maybe 300 to 400.
 
Sadly, I would have to agree with iceman. If it wasn't tapped, with the ring in place, it would be worth a lot more. Unfortunately, once ANYTHING has been altered or removed, a collector won't even sniff at it, regardless of the overall condition. I'd say maybe as much as $450 to $500, but the .30-30 isn't a rare calibre, either. So that won't even contribute to increased value.
 
So with that tapping the gun is now worth LESS than every other 1894 for sale on this website? I would have thought a perfect condition firing pre 64 would be worth a hair more than a beater from the 80's. :/
 
Holes drilled, missing ring & you call it "perfect"

What some guys are asking & what they're likely to get can be quite diff numbers.
A post 64 M-94 IMHO is worth $250
A pre 64 M-94 is worth $4-500 in excellent shape
Values given for yours was given between $300 which might be a tad low to a high of $500, which might be a tad high.
Just what did you think it would be worth?
Why does everyone think their gun is the most valuable one!
 
look at the prices of a original matching non-ftr lee enfield versus one that has been D/T'd
Sorry but once it has been modded it is just another shooter 300-500$
 
Holes look factory under the bluing. Was a scope tap an option at the time? They don't seem to have been used. I'm pretty sure I can find that ring around here as well.

I thought it was worth about 900-1000. Wanted to sell and get some cheap CAS guns. If it's only worth 500 I'll keep it as its mint to me.
 
offgrid said:
Holes look factory under the bluing. Was a scope tap an option at the time? They don't seem to have been used. I'm pretty sure I can find that ring around here as well.

I thought it was worth about 900-1000. Wanted to sell and get some cheap CAS guns. If it's only worth 500 I'll keep it as its mint to me.
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No drillings for scopes before 1900!
Sometime after production started up after WW2, they drilled the left side for an aperature sight. My old 1956 had factory drilled holes that fit a Williams Fool Proof sight, and maybe a Lyman also fit the same holes.
"Holes look like factory UNDER the bluing."
Ouch!
That makes it look like a reblue job.
 
Well my 1912 (72###X) has it's ring and although she looks a little beat up.. She still shoots pretty good.. It's not drilled for a scope.. It is tapped for a tang site..
Mind you mine is that special 30 WCF not that new fangled 30-30 stuff..
 
Like H4831 I have a 1956 with factory holes. I put a Williams sight on it.

My 1927 SRC has no holes. Can't find any 30 WCF ammo any more though.
 
The Cody Museum doesn't give values. Their research guys aren't allowed to appraise anything. Only manufacturing dates a description and original sales info.
If they did give values, they'd be U.S. values that, like the assorted U.S. published 'gun value' books, have nothing to do with Canadian values. Not much to do with U.S. values either as they're averages of values from all over the States with no regard for local supply and demand.
"...No drillings for scopes before 1900..." I think it was the mid-50's.
 
sunray said:
"...No drillings for scopes before 1900..." I think it was the mid-50's.
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Now sunray, if you had kept the exclamation mark behind the sentence you quoted from me, you wouldn't have to have quoted it. It should have been self explanatory that it meant, "of course not," or "obviously," or something similar.
I did say it was sometime after start up after WW2 they started drilling for aperature sights and my 1956 had them. So somewhere in that ten year period they started drilling for aperatures, not scopes, and I think too, it was in the early 1950 models.
 
MD said:
Can't find any 30 WCF ammo any more though.
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30 WCF is 3030 no? I think you guys are just kidding around but its hard to tell over the interweb.

The two holes are on the ring side about 3 inches apart near the top of the receiver. Either I'm missing two screws or it has been tapped AND must have been reblued at some point in its life.

If it is the case its worth only $500, Im going to keep it for pigs and deer. If I can get around $1000 or more, I will sell to try and finance a set of vaqueros.
 
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offgrid said:
I think you guys are just kidding around but its hard to tell over the interweb.

If I can get around $1000 or more, I will sell to try and finance a set of vaqueros.
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What everyone has told you is your rifle is worth $250-$300. To the right guy you might get a little more. you certainly won't get $1000 but if you do I want to know the name of the buyer as I have a bunch of stuff I want to sell for more then it's worth.
 
My 94 30-30 serial number comes across a nee 1954, all original and has the factory drilled
holes on the left rear upper receiver for the FP 94-36.
My five digit 1894 has no saddle ring nor the holes for the mentioned above peep sight.
Ten brown ones..............????
 
Also about the time they changed the forend wood to the type that extended about an inch less past the barrel band. They said it minimized cracking of the forend but personally I think the old long forends looked better. If the OP put up pics it might become apparent that his old carbine was drilled on the side for the old Lyman 21 peep sight and not a scope mount at all.
 
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