I got an old Winchester 290 Semi-auto .22lr from my father in-law. Doesn't want to feed regardless of what I do. Tightened the barrel nut: no change. Cleaned out all the bits of exploded casing from in the action: nothing. Anyone have any experience with these rifles? All in all it seems like a decent little plinker and I'd like to get it working again. I'm thinking of trying to buy new internal components for it to see if maybe that's the issue. Any help would be appreciated.
Winchester 290
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gunrunner100
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Is it not feeding from the magazine? These rifles were not well made in the traditional Winchester fashjon. Parts can be difficult to find. I turned a pump into a lever due to not being able to find the correct parts.
Tube magazine feeds down the tube no problem. Seems to not seat the round properly, when it cycles it gets the round about 3/4 of the way into the chamber then just stops dead. Won't go forward at all until the round is removed. The wife really wants her dad's old gun to work so I'm on this mission until it's fixed.
gunrunner100
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Also check to see if there is a raised burr in the chamber mouth from dry firing. Did it by chance have a steady diet of 22 Shorts?
Roughly where on the chamber mouth would I find this burr if it is there? I'm not sure what it's been fed in the past. The Father in-law said it was given to him 20-odd years ago and he never used it that he can remember.
I have one, it's really good. But it will jam.
They don't like shorts.
I found a worn part, but seems ok as long as I don't use shorts. Can't seem to jog my memory by looking at the manual. But I remember what it looks like. It's about 3/8 inch long and about 1/4 inch wide. It is cone or sort of boob shaped on both ends. One end was worn quite a bit. It fits onto a spring.
If it still has the original grease, it may be hardened.
I have the manual for the 250, 270 and the 290.
They don't like shorts.
I found a worn part, but seems ok as long as I don't use shorts. Can't seem to jog my memory by looking at the manual. But I remember what it looks like. It's about 3/8 inch long and about 1/4 inch wide. It is cone or sort of boob shaped on both ends. One end was worn quite a bit. It fits onto a spring.
If it still has the original grease, it may be hardened.
I have the manual for the 250, 270 and the 290.
Any chance you could scan that 290 manual you've got? Maybe post it to this thread? Would be greatly appreciated if you could.
Yeah, but I'd rather mail it. I'll have to disassemble it and get my wife to photocopy it.
It will take a couple of days to get it done up, but I'm happy to do it. I live in Waterloo.
You need the whole thing, because part of the disassembly for the 290 refers to a section in the 270.
It's not that many pages.
If I don't come back in a day or so saying it's done, poke me, because I'm getting old and tend to drop things I was doing.
I'll set it out so I have to look at it.
Yeah, but I'd rather mail it. I'll have to disassemble it and get my wife to photocopy it.
It will take a couple of days to get it done up, but I'm happy to do it. I live in Waterloo.
You need the whole thing, because part of the disassembly for the 290 refers to a section in the 270.
It's not that many pages.
If I don't come back in a day or so saying it's done, poke me, because I'm getting old and tend to drop things I was doing.
I'll set it out so I have to look at it.
Sounds great, thanks!
http://youtu.be/v8R3jg_CT44
[youtube]v8R3jg_CT44[/youtube]
At 1:26 on the video, that lever he pushes down on is where I believe
your problem is.
There is a spring under there to push up this part.
Not sure of the proper name.
If those pins are slightly seized or crud in there could be part of
your problem.
That spring needs to sit in there in a vertical fashion.
These are not that difficult to pull apart and get into.
The pin that holds the trigger group in the receiver just pushes out.
Too bad you're waaaay yonder as I would offer to help you out.
Cheers.
[youtube]v8R3jg_CT44[/youtube]
At 1:26 on the video, that lever he pushes down on is where I believe
your problem is.
There is a spring under there to push up this part.
Not sure of the proper name.
If those pins are slightly seized or crud in there could be part of
your problem.
That spring needs to sit in there in a vertical fashion.
These are not that difficult to pull apart and get into.
The pin that holds the trigger group in the receiver just pushes out.
Too bad you're waaaay yonder as I would offer to help you out.
Cheers.
I'm going to have a look at that video when I'm off work. My phone's not so great for youtube and the gun's at home anyways. I really want to get this rifle working as it'll bring a smile to my ladies face and it seems like a solid little .22.
Glad to help out.
gunrunner100
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Generally where the firing pin hits the rim of the cartridge. For the life of me, I can picture the bolt, but not where the firing pin sits in it...
So, I pulled it apart last night, gave it a serious cleaning and got more familiar with the internal mechanisms. The youtube video certainly helped.
As far as I can tell the elevator and feeding mechanism are operating correctly. The cartridge travels properly up the elevator and to the feed ramp but, stops dead as soon as the bullet itself enters the mouth of the chamber. The casing will not go in at all. Inside the chamber I can see some kind of strangely colored off-yellowish coating. Almost looks like an old shell is stuck in there and lacking it's rim. I have a photo but, it's not great. I'm putting it on Photobucket now and I'll post it here momentarily.
As far as I can tell the elevator and feeding mechanism are operating correctly. The cartridge travels properly up the elevator and to the feed ramp but, stops dead as soon as the bullet itself enters the mouth of the chamber. The casing will not go in at all. Inside the chamber I can see some kind of strangely colored off-yellowish coating. Almost looks like an old shell is stuck in there and lacking it's rim. I have a photo but, it's not great. I'm putting it on Photobucket now and I'll post it here momentarily.
tungngroove2000
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hey OP, i have some parts that i shipped in from south of the border for my 190.....if you figure out what you need let me know, i bought extras of some. pretty sure i have the piece at 1:26 of the video and various other as well. PM me if you find what you need and i'd be glad to help. it's worth getting it working again for sure. i love the 190 i bought on the EE and brought back to safe shooting (it had a slam fire issue). parts are NOT easy to come by but i did luck out and find an old hardware store clearout sale and he was willing to ship, so i bought the whole nine yards....cheers
The camera's flash makes it look dirtier than it is but, here's what I've got.
See the unidentified yellowish object in the chamber?
The extractor is able to move freely. The elevator (including the little spring) also seems to be functioningcorrectly. The round I was using (Remington "Golden Bullet" round-nose) to test fed freely from the magazing into the action but, then binds up at the chamber mouth.
See the unidentified yellowish object in the chamber?
The extractor is able to move freely. The elevator (including the little spring) also seems to be functioningcorrectly. The round I was using (Remington "Golden Bullet" round-nose) to test fed freely from the magazing into the action but, then binds up at the chamber mouth.
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tungngroove2000
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i think you might be onto something with the chamber, by the looks of the trigger group, condition of the hammer etc i would highly doubt your issue is there as it seems from the pics that there is very little wear at all (i'm basing that on the face of the hammer and they do show wear). that would lead me to suspect the other parts of the group have little wear as well. don't have a suggestion for you about the chamber, that's where i take it to my local smith and let the pro handle it. good luck with it and hope to see the results.
With it disassembled I attempted to manually insert the cartridge and it stops dead at about a 1/4" in. Didn't go so far as to try to force it but, at a decent inward pressure it wouldn't budge. If anyone's got a sec and this rifle, could you have a look into your chamber and see if that sleeve is normal or not?
When I first got the rifle I found a blown off rim and some small shards of brass in the rear of the reciever which suggested to me that it had experienced a case failure at some point in it's life. The clean edge of the "sleeve" versus the ragged edges on the blown rim suggests to me that it isn't the blown casing still stuck in the chamber. Looks far too clean to me.
When I first got the rifle I found a blown off rim and some small shards of brass in the rear of the reciever which suggested to me that it had experienced a case failure at some point in it's life. The clean edge of the "sleeve" versus the ragged edges on the blown rim suggests to me that it isn't the blown casing still stuck in the chamber. Looks far too clean to me.
