Winchester 94, idea of price

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Hi, I'm just looking for an idea of the price of this 94 of 1913 (confirmed with the serial number)

Work perfectly but barrel well used
Thx

 
That thing looks a little rough on the surface.
If the bore is well worn/shot out on top of that I would say around $400. Hell I wouldn't pay a penny more.
Model 94's are the most ridiculously priced rifles in this country. You can see one guy selling a post 64 in decent shape for a sane price of around $350 then one add down the exact same rifle for $700 lol
There are only about ten trillion of them out there. You can find 200 of them at any gun show you go to. Great rifles! One of the all time legendary designs. But very common and usually nowhere near the asking price most people try to sell them for. Even the fabled pre '64's that were supposedly built "so much better" are normally way overpriced.
Then you get the special edition/limited edition versions with stupid buffalo pictures painted on them and the seller wants $2,000 or something retarded and it sits on the EE for 15 years getting bumped until the seller actually dies and his grandson continues to bump the add.
As a gauge I bought a 1973 in literally like new condition for $400 shipped about 2 years ago. I never could have fathomed the rabbit hole of stupidity I was venturing down when I decided to begin the journey of finding a used, rack grade 1894...
Sorry...touched a nerve there! :D
 
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Travis Bickle said:
That thing looks a little rough on the surface.
If the bore is well worn/shot out on top of that I would say around $400. Hell I wouldn't pay a penny more.
Model 94's are the most ridiculously priced rifles in this country. You can see one guy selling a post 64 in decent shape for a sane price of around $350 then one add down the exact same rifle for $700 lol
There are only about ten trillion of them out there. You can find 200 of them at any gun show you go to. Great rifles! One of the all time legendary designs. But very common and usually nowhere near the asking price most people try to sell them for. Even the fabled pre '64's that were supposedly built "so much better" are normally way overpriced.
Then you get the special edition/limited edition versions with stupid buffalo pictures painted on them and the seller wants $2,000 or something retarded and it sits on the EE for 15 years getting bumped until the seller actually dies and his grandson continues to bump the add.
As a gauge I bought a 1973 in literally like new condition for $400 shipped about 2 years ago. I never could have fathomed the rabbit hole of stupidity I was venturing down when I decided to begin the journey of finding a used, rack grade 1894...
Sorry...touched a nerve there! :D
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Tell us how you really feel Travis, lol. I agree that many 94's are over priced, especially the commemorative editions. Some people seem to think their common, run-of-the-mill, pitted, worn 94 is valuable because it is "old". Condition and rarity is everything. I've seen some pretty beat up 30-30 cal 94's that people wanted $700-$750.00 (and more) to part with it!
 
StoneHorse said:
Tell us how you really feel Travis, lol. I agree that many 94's are over priced, especially the commemorative editions. Some people seem to think their common, run-of-the-mill, pitted, worn 94 is valuable because it is "old". Condition and rarity is everything. I've seen some pretty beat up 30-30 cal 94's that people wanted $700-$750.00 (and more) to part with it!
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lol I'm sorry.
Just stirred up bad memories.
I do understand the quality of materials and hand fitting/craftsmanship of the pre 64 and post 64 era as well. That being said I have seen absolutely nothing in the quality of the post 64's that made then any less reliable or accurate of a firearm for any practical reason. The receivers were a bit stronger, so I guess if you had to smash your receiver on a rock over and over to signal a search party and then still have to take a shot at a deer after or something?
Definitely nothing to suggest the crazy prices people try to sling them for. There are so many of them. It's literally one of the most prolific firearms in North America. 7.5 MILLION + in North America made in its time. Right up there with the Model 12 Pump (another of the best designs ever IMHO)
 
Travis Bickle said:
lol I'm sorry.
Just stirred up bad memories.
I do understand the quality of materials and hand fitting/craftsmanship of the pre 64 and post 64 era as well. That being said I have seen absolutely nothing in the quality of the post 64's that made then any less reliable or accurate of a firearm for any practical reason. The receivers were a bit stronger, so I guess if you had to smash your receiver on a rock over and over to signal a search party and then still have to take a shot at a deer after or something?
Definitely nothing to suggest the crazy prices people try to sling them for. There are so many of them. It's literally one of the most prolific firearms in North America. 7.5 MILLION + in North America made in its time. Right up there with the Model 12 Pump (another of the best designs ever IMHO)
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My opinion differs considerably.
Had a 1967 Canadian Centennial with a nice fine 26 inch long pipe & I practiced for the summer months every weekend in prep for fall deer season.
Things were going well, that is until the cheap stamped metal shell lifter broke into two pieces.
The 1956 made carbine was turned out to replace the longer rifle.
Zero issues and I got my deer in 2005.
 
Brutus said:
My opinion differs considerably.
Had a 1967 Canadian Centennial with a nice fine 26 inch long pipe & I practiced for the summer months every weekend in prep for fall deer season.
Things were going well, that is until the cheap stamped metal shell lifter broke into two pieces.
The 1956 made carbine was turned out to replace the longer rifle.
Zero issues and I got my deer in 2005.
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I never expected much out of any of the "special edition" releases other than to look pretty.
 
Hard to tell with just one picture. But in this condition and assuming the following:
All original parts.
No parts missing.
30 WCF.
It fires.
$350-$400
Please keep in mind that most collectors will prefer to pay more money for a piece in good condition.
 
It appears to be one that may have started it's life as a Saddle-ring Carbine, although some parts may be missing (saddle ring?).
$350-$400 is accurate, although it does appear to have the gum wood either sanded or the tang on the left side is missing a piece.
 
Can't tell how much farther the barrel goes. Check the rear sight to see if it says meters, and check it carefully for any Belgian proofs. There is such a beast as a "Belgian Congo" 94 carbine. They were intended to be shipped to the Belgian Congo. I ended up with two of them. I had no idea until I posted a pic and someone on here made the same suggestion. One of mine had Belgian proofs and likely didn't get out of Belgium. The other one never made it out of North America. I sold them both to the same fellow.

In the time that passes from manufacture date until now, the possibility of several replacement parts having been added is pretty good. One of the Belgians had a homemade butt stock, so I replaced it with a rifle stock. The Belgians were the only ones Winchester installed a side mounted sling swivel on, so I was told. Both mine were so equipped.

As an aside, my main whitetail rifle for the past few years has been a 1950's .32 Special carbine. :)
 
I think I may have paid $450 for mine:

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No rust or pitting, but a lot of the blueing was worn, and the wood wasn't in the best shape, but I'm happy because I don't need to baby it:


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I had a Canadian rifle stolen some years back. I bought the matched set, consecutive serial #'s, back in 1967. Huge cost back then, $325 for both. They were $150 each, and $25 more for the matched set. Shot them both.
 
I agree.

They seem to be the most popular newly purchased rifle for guys to carry ostentatiously around at gun shows.

Then I look at listed prices and shake my head.

I guess I can afford to be arrogant about it. I've been given three of the darn things.



Travis Bickle said:
That thing looks a little rough on the surface.
If the bore is well worn/shot out on top of that I would say around $400. Hell I wouldn't pay a penny more.
Model 94's are the most ridiculously priced rifles in this country. You can see one guy selling a post 64 in decent shape for a sane price of around $350 then one add down the exact same rifle for $700 lol
There are only about ten trillion of them out there. You can find 200 of them at any gun show you go to. Great rifles! One of the all time legendary designs. But very common and usually nowhere near the asking price most people try to sell them for. Even the fabled pre '64's that were supposedly built "so much better" are normally way overpriced.
Then you get the special edition/limited edition versions with stupid buffalo pictures painted on them and the seller wants $2,000 or something retarded and it sits on the EE for 15 years getting bumped until the seller actually dies and his grandson continues to bump the add.
As a gauge I bought a 1973 in literally like new condition for $400 shipped about 2 years ago. I never could have fathomed the rabbit hole of stupidity I was venturing down when I decided to begin the journey of finding a used, rack grade 1894...
Sorry...touched a nerve there! :D
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Mister Donut said:
I think I may have paid $450 for mine:

http://3.bp.########.com/-Ut_xs3W0z4s/Ug79TaYysWI/AAAAAAAASNM/PhWqyopMsxM/s1600/P8130022.JPG

No rust or pitting, but a lot of the blueing was worn, and the wood wasn't in the best shape, but I'm happy because I don't need to baby it:


http://2.bp.########.com/-xITvH3cxbH4/Ug7-Y1xULqI/AAAAAAAASOE/fVRSV4MnI3o/s1600/P8130031.JPG

http://3.bp.########.com/-tLRRk8Y6Nw0/VWa6m1BOKpI/AAAAAAAAXT8/_iZ-x8aLQps/s1600/DSC_1947.JPG
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Wait until that shell lifter breaks and then get back to us.
 
Just because it is old does not make it valuable. It is a worn, roughly used rifle that someone might want to buy as a using rifle, only because it would be cheap. I would not pay more than $200 for it, if I needed such a rifle. Frankly more likely $150, if it works and can keep its shots on paper. The only reason it should be worth more is if there were some provenance to it that could be proven. Many posters complain about the prices on the EE, but giving someone hope that this is worth $400 or more is a prime example of misleading pricing.
 
As a owner of a brand new condition, "minty". Only 9 rounds down the tube 8 from me and 1 from my father and non from my grandfather that bought it in 1960.

I generally find the " it's only (whatever insert low price) new ones are not that much. Blah blah blah generally those Debbie downer don't own one and definitely not in the shape of the ones we have or collecter have hidden away.

These threads always get people wound up....buy an unfired pre '64 or go buy America's gun made my the japs a miroku that's about it for top shelf grade a quality.....there is a noticeable difference between pre '64 and post 64 just depends on what you have and how hard you look.....so instead of shooting my minty pre64 I bought a Mossberg 464 and put on Skinner peeps sights. It's nice enough to shoot plinking and for varmints it down coyotes but it sure isn't a PRE 64.period.
 
Al-Sway said:
Just because it is old does not make it valuable. It is a worn, roughly used rifle that someone might want to buy as a using rifle, only because it would be cheap. I would not pay more than $200 for it, if I needed such a rifle. Frankly more likely $150, if it works and can keep its shots on paper. The only reason it should be worth more is if there were some provenance to it that could be proven. Many posters complain about the prices on the EE, but giving someone hope that this is worth $400 or more is a prime example of misleading pricing.
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It is a well used saddle ring carbine but estimates of $200 are ridiculous. Looks like the mag tube has been shortened but as an assembly of parts the rifle is worth $400 any day of the week. A complete early 1900's 1894 action will fetch $250 easy. I know, I have sold a couple for the same amount. The rear sight will fetch $125 alone not to mention all the other parts. Anyone who says this rifle is worth $200 max simply doesn't know much about vintage Winchesters or their value.
 
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