Winchester 94 Trapper

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Looking for some opions from the Winchester crowd. Have a chance at a Winchester 94 Trapper in 30/30. Serial number says it was manufactured in 1946. Wood is pretty good for its age. Barrel and receiver have little or no bluing left. Looking for ideas on what this guy should sell for. Nothing on EE or gun post that would match this guy. Action and rifling seem fine
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Pictures of course would be a big help, as well as barrel length, serial # even if you ### out the last three and where the barrel address is marked on the barrel. I.m wondering how you came up with a manufactured date of 1946 as Winchester stopped production during WW11 and no records available from 43'-48.

I'd be a little skeptical on it's originality from what info you have provided. Highest serial # known for a orig Trapper is 1,330,740 (1942) and 0nly 4 were made after 1933 in anticipation of the US Gun act of 1934 coming in. So if manufactured prior to 1933 serial # should be in the 1,110,### range. Forend wood should be 7 1/4 long and muzzle dia should be .605.

16" was the most common, and a couple original Trappers sold at auction here a couple yrs ago for I think it was like $14K @ for a 15" and a 14"..
 
I may be mistaken calling it a trapper. It has a 16” barrel and i traced the serial number thru the Winchester web site.
Serial number is 165####.
 
I'm no winchester expert, but 16" barrel is what I thought made a Trapper a Trapper?

A base pre-64 Win94 is going for ~$1000 these days if its not beat to ####, so I'd think a shorter barrel version of that vintage would be north of that by a few bills.
 
The original trappers are all pre war and are 14, 15 or 16”.

I would expect a lot of bluing wear.

You sure the serial number is right?

In Canada it could have been shortened by a gunsmith.
 
I have one in a 30-30 with a 16 inch barrel and it has the saddle ring. The ser no puts it at a 52 model year?
As far as i know it was never altered or messed with
 
Suther said:
I'm no winchester expert, but 16" barrel is what I thought made a Trapper a Trapper?

A base pre-64 Win94 is going for ~$1000 these days if its not beat to ####, so I'd think a shorter barrel version of that vintage would be north of that by a few bills.
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9.3mauser said:
I ran your number through this website https://winchestercollector.org/dates/ and the date came up as 1949. My gut feeling is that this gun has been altered. If it truly is an original trapper the only way to set a value is to throw it in an auction and let the market decide, as it would be multiple thousands of dollars.
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Thanks for the info.
9.3mauser said:
I ran your number through this website https://winchestercollector.org/dates/ and the date came up as 1949. My gut feeling is that this gun has been altered. If it truly is an original trapper the only way to set a value is to throw it in an auction and let the market decide, as it would be multiple thousands of dollars.
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Another possibility is that it's some sort of commemorative, with it's own serial number range. Trappers were re-introduced '80s-90's but they're a different beast than the originals. If you post some pics somebody here will be able to tell you exactly what you have, likely within minutes.
 
Something is off.
Serial # and barrel length don't seem to match up.

The NFA of 1934 sealed the fate for the Winchester Model 94 Trapper production.

The highest verified Trapper documented is S/N 1330740 (April 1942) and it is a 30 WCF with a 16-inch barrel.

Originally called Baby Carbines and factory original barrels were available at extra cost , 19", 18", 17", 16", 15", 14" and even 12".

Winchester referred to them as Special Short Carbines) they are exceedingly rare, were never cataloged and were ultimately discontinued in 1933.

Limited 16" were produced after 33.

Most trappers had saddle rings, but the most authenticating feature is their fore-end wood, which measures 7¼"—1" shorter than a standard carbine fore-end.

In addition, the front sight bases are forged to the barrel, not dovetailed or soldered .
 
A word of caution - if it was a standard 20" carbine with the barrel shortened to 16", there could be a legal issue.
 
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