Winchester AA Hulls

[3macs1]

Interesting. Is that a new thing? I've combed through the ITAR wording several times but never noticed the exemption for shotgun hulls before.

Nothing new that I am aware. Just know I can legally still buy wads and used shotgun hulls if the supplier will ship to canada and don't need the paper work one would need for other items maybe since these are regulated by the U.S. Department of Commerce rather than the U.S. Department of State. Not sure
BUT excluding shotgun shells ?? and components of ??? treated as one in the same probally
Cheers
ITIAR
Category III-Ammunition

*(a) Ammunition for the arms in Categories I and II of this section. (See § 121.6.)

(b) Components, parts, accessories, and attachments for articles in paragraph (a) of this category, including but not limited to cartridge cases, powder bags, bullets, jackets, cores, shells (excluding shotgun shells) projectiles, boosters, fuzes and components therefor, primers, and other detonating devices for such ammunition. (See § 121.6.)

 

[Cardamonfrost]

Hmmm. well I still think they are the best as that's the way my dad taught me.. and they seem to perform the best. I use win style wads, so the new ones seem to reload ok for me as well (bought a flat of the low Noise Low recoil ones to try them out).

I would love to find a trash bag full of any AA hull.. a lot of mine are getting on 5 reloads and starting to split at the crimp.

Our club (Barrie Gun Club) sells the Challenger blue ones, and they have a different crimp and a slightly different height, so the free ones there are garbage to me (unless I change the setup of my press, which I don't plan on doing). The only time I see any AA hulls there are when people buy a new autoloader and want 1 1/8 full loads to break it in (not often)..

Doesn't stop me from digging through the bin though!!

C

 

[kvhancock]

Interesting. Is that a new thing? I've combed through the ITAR wording several times but never noticed the exemption for shotgun hulls before.

I was going to order them from Cabelas in the US and have them shipped to my sister in Fargo. I received an email from the Cabelas fraud prevention department advising me that the export of these hulls outside of the US was illegal and they requested I confirm that they will not be exported from the US. The hulls still had spent primers in them.

 

[3macs1]

I was going to order them from Cabelas in the US and have them shipped to my sister in Fargo. I received an email from the Cabelas fraud prevention department advising me that the export of these hulls outside of the US was illegal and they requested I confirm that they will not be exported from the US. The hulls still had spent primers in them.

Yep that is because Cabelas got hit hard with a fine a few years back for scopes I think and after that they just put a blanket ban on shipping any item that looked like it could be controlled even some that are not.
In fact 2008 is when it all changed with them
Cabela’s Fined $6 8 0 ,0 0 0 for Unlicensed Exports of Rifle Scopes

Like I said you have to find a supplier that knows what the truth really is and will take the time to ship to canada if you require a direct shipment
I only go to the US for huils now for sizes that are just impossible to find in canada like 12ga 3 1/2 for example since the shipping is crazy. Like 95 bucks US per 1000
If you want to make 100% sure there is no hassel buy them off gun broker and hire Prophet River to do what is required but again only on impossible sizes unless you have no problem paying 40-70 cents per hull
Cheers

 

[3macs1]

Hmmm. well I still think they are the best as that's the way my dad taught me.. and they seem to perform the best. I use win style wads, so the new ones seem to reload ok for me as well (bought a flat of the low Noise Low recoil ones to try them out).

I would love to find a trash bag full of any AA hull.. a lot of mine are getting on 5 reloads and starting to split at the crimp.

Our club (Barrie Gun Club) sells the Challenger blue ones, and they have a different crimp and a slightly different height, so the free ones there are garbage to me (unless I change the setup of my press, which I don't plan on doing). The only time I see any AA hulls there are when people buy a new autoloader and want 1 1/8 full loads to break it in (not often)..

Doesn't stop me from digging through the bin though!!

C

Also grab any remington compression formed you find like STS, Nitro27 etc. They are as good or better in 12ga as AA not so much in 28ga and 410 however
Cheers

 

[beretta boy]

I'm a confessed "hull whore" ... and SABLE may well apply.

In the early '80's while shooting an SX-1 a lot, I found myself suddenly out of hulls ... and was reduced to travelling about an hour & a half down to Oshawa to buy a couple
of hundred for $15 ... about 7.5 cents per hull. Never again !!! Am now sitting on +/- 30,000 once fired 12 ga. "old style" AA's, about 1/2 that many 20's and maybe
5000 each 28 & 410. And no they aren't for sale while I'm still living !

And names from the past ... ah yes, John Emmett ..."unique individual" to be sure. Some march to the beat of their own drum. He I believe, had a whole orchestra behind him !

 

[3macs1]

I'm a confessed "hull whore" ... and SABLE may well apply.

In the early '80's while shooting an SX-1 a lot, I found myself suddenly out of hulls ... and was reduced to travelling about an hour & a half down to Oshawa to buy a couple
of hundred for $15 ... about 7.5 cents per hull. Never again !!! Am now sitting on +/- 30,000 once fired 12 ga. "old style" AA's, about 1/2 that many 20's and maybe
5000 each 28 & 410. And no they aren't for sale while I'm still living !

And names from the past ... ah yes, John Emmett ..."unique individual" to be sure. Some march to the beat of their own drum. He I believe, had a whole orchestra behind him !

Nice to hear I am the same way only I started only probally 10 -15 years earlier in the 70's. Ran out after The old man passed and I used up his stash and some older guys at the club then told me if I am going to to stay with this game to start to stash my own and I did

Lets just say Lloyd at Irvs and I were the best of buds with many shipments a year for many years in fact every 410 and 28ga hull he could sell me I bought plus there was a guy in the US we would get as many as we could haul when we drove down that way for 3 yes 3 cents each
I cannot match you on the 30,000 AA 12ga old style unless I add in the STS, Nitro27's, Gold metals and yes Blue Magic in with them . Then ya I would be still in the 30's and sold off quite a lot of 12ga in the past 10 years to help others. Lots of 20 ga AA, STS, Premer also but never counted them

The 28ga AA and STS I would not even guess how many but know way more than 12ga plus a fair stash of 16ga including old compression formed AA's and of course the 12 ga 3" and 3 1/2 and 10ga steel stuff. Try to find any of those today in canada . Sold 500 of the 16ga compression formed AA style to a guy on the 16ga site after he offered a buck US a hull and if anyone reloads the 16ga knows why. Today they will probally go for even more and by far are the best hull ever produced for the 16ga

Any how real good to see I am not the only HULL and WAD nut around here unfortunately I didnot do the same with brass and suck there
Still have some of my original superx1's selling 1/2 since I joined here but rarely shoot them any more and like you finished selling off hulls for now anyway unless I get another big batch from a fellow shooter passing on and a call from his family. Seems I am getting of the age this is happening way too much in the past 5 years and I hate buying them this way
Cheers

 

[ninepointer]

Because it's from John Emmett and he doesn't ship anything. Plus if you do buy from him you have to go through the UFO initiation like the rest of us have.

LOL! I once went there and got a special deal: UFO's plus Lake Ontario "rogue waves".

 

[1887]

I have been out of this game for some time but used to shoot 500 plus a week so had to reload. just going to start up again I have 11 big totes full of new old AA plus STS and Rem gold and yes a tote of fed papers. the big thing is lead, I still have about 40 bags but when I went to see how much for more ,I think i'm going to make some lol. with the price of lead I see all the guys I used to shoot with are just shooting cheep shells and not reloading so that in it self makes it hard to pick up the good hulls unless you know some one rich that shoots them lol I would go to a trap shoot and ask if any one has any because a lot of shooters are not reloading any more with lead being so much. and powder being a pain to get some times. just my 2 cents

 

[quinnbrian]

I have a garbage full,(AA 2 3/4") only wish I could turn them into 3" Would like to reload some 2 3/4 slugs, with the factory type rolled edge, and the AA have the crimped end, so can't roll the edge.