Winchester centennial 44-40... Price?

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I've been looking at a win centennial 44-40 at a local shop. It has a gold color receiver and is in excellent shape. It's used and is listed for $630 + 13% txs. Is this the going rate for this kind of lever?
 
600 is way to much for a used one .heck you can get a real nice per 64 for less then 600 plus tax ..I guess it will depend on what you want to do with it ,I have seen guys trying to sell the win collecters still new in the box for less then 600 and still not selling ,,Dutch
 
dutchhunter said:
600 is way to much for a used one .heck you can get a real nice per 64 for less then 600 plus tax ..I guess it will depend on what you want to do with it ,I have seen guys trying to sell the win collecters still new in the box for less then 600 and still not selling ,,Dutch
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If I were to buy it , it woulld be using it.
 
Using it as a hunting rifle or are you into cowboy action shooting?

As a hunting rifle there are a lot more suitable calibers with easier to find ammo even if you want a "historic" caliber.

This is one of the calibers that fell by the wayside when the 30-30's came into production.

It's a relatively short range caliber that shoots a fairly heavy bullet, but would be usable for Bambi in typical "lever" ranges of about 100 yards or so.
 
I had a 30 30 and sold it. Just thinking , I want another lever and this one caught my eye ( I think it was the gold receiver) :). What ever I get , will be used for target shooting.
 
all retail gun shops charge the tax, but they don't include the tax to the seller, cute little money grab, been going on for years.
 
I can't speak to the price of the rifle, but I can certainly say something about the difference between the 44-40 cartridge and the 30-30 cartridge. I own both, and have taken Whitetail deer with both. First, the Model 94 was not originally designed for the much shorter 44-40 cartridge, so the modern Model 94's that shoot the 44-40 have been modified accordingly. The original 44-40 cartridge fired, out of a rifle, a 200 grain bullet at around 1,300 fps. The 30-30 puts a 150 grain bullet out the barrel at around 2,250 fps, plus or minus. I shot a nice Whitetail doe of around 200 pounds live weight with my 44-40 Model 1873 using a 200 grain cast bullet at 1,280 fps. Range was only about 50 yards and it was broadside. The bullet went right through both lungs and kept on truckin'. The doe ran about 120 yards and keeled over. I took a Whitetail Buck with my 30-30, broadside with a 160 grain cast bullet at around 2,100 fps. Range was 75 yards. The bullet went right through both lungs and kept on truckin' as well. The buck ran about 120 yards and keeled over. When all is said and done, the 30-30 has a flatter trajectory and more muzzle energy, but the 44-40 is more fun to shoot. If you have a modern 44-40, you can load it up significantly. The original 'high velocity' load for the 44-40 was a 200 grain bullet at 1,565 fps. Several years ago, I took another nice Whitetail doe, also around 200 pounds live weight, with a 44-40 using a 200 grain bullet at around 1,500 fps. The difference between a 'HV' 44-40 and a normal 30-30 is diminished significantly, the closer one gets to 1,600 fps. I don't push my 44-40 loads anymore. 200 grains at 1,300 fps does the job just fine, but I do keep my shots under 100 yards, which is no problem in the bush.
 
Win 38-55 said:
I can't speak to the price of the rifle, but I can certainly say something about the difference between the 44-40 cartridge and the 30-30 cartridge. I own both, and have taken Whitetail deer with both. First, the Model 94 was not originally designed for the much shorter 44-40 cartridge, so the modern Model 94's that shoot the 44-40 have been modified accordingly. The original 44-40 cartridge fired, out of a rifle, a 200 grain bullet at around 1,300 fps. The 30-30 puts a 150 grain bullet out the barrel at around 2,250 fps, plus or minus. I shot a nice Whitetail doe of around 200 pounds live weight with my 44-40 Model 1873 using a 200 grain cast bullet at 1,280 fps. Range was only about 50 yards and it was broadside. The bullet went right through both lungs and kept on truckin'. The doe ran about 120 yards and keeled over. I took a Whitetail Buck with my 30-30, broadside with a 160 grain cast bullet at around 2,100 fps. Range was 75 yards. The bullet went right through both lungs and kept on truckin' as well. The buck ran about 120 yards and keeled over. When all is said and done, the 30-30 has a flatter trajectory and more muzzle energy, but the 44-40 is more fun to shoot. If you have a modern 44-40, you can load it up significantly. The original 'high velocity' load for the 44-40 was a 200 grain bullet at 1,565 fps. Several years ago, I took another nice Whitetail doe, also around 200 pounds live weight, with a 44-40 using a 200 grain bullet at around 1,500 fps. The difference between a 'HV' 44-40 and a normal 30-30 is diminished significantly, the closer one gets to 1,600 fps. I don't push my 44-40 loads anymore. 200 grains at 1,300 fps does the job just fine, but I do keep my shots under 100 yards, which is no problem in the bush.
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Agreed 100%
 
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