Winchester mod12

Dry firing a M12 can cause the tip of the firing pin to break off. Further, M12's will often work flawlessly with a broken firing pin for decades as I have seen this when servicing some "grandpas gun" for friends and acquaintances. Only stickler being the slam fire issue should the fractured tip protrude..which is along the lines of sasquatches and loche ness monsters in my opinion... New firing pin will run 40 or 50 bucks and be a hassle to get across the 49th unless you know or someone parting one out
 
madtrapper143 said:
The sleeve is retained by a toothed dog which is secured by a screw. This screw is visible when looking at the face of the chamber. The dog has to be levered down to disengage the teeth and allow the sleeve to turn. I am afraid to say but to get your gun fitted properly some lathe and milling machine work is required. A different sleeve may do the job but that is shear guesswork. Good model 12 smiths are extinct in Canada now. If anyone knows one let me know.

Darryl
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I would agree with your statement that, "Good M-12 smiths are extinct in Canada" I can tell you one thing for sure that they don't have a competent M-12 smith at Browning's service centre in Montreal. I sent a Browning M-12 Grade V 20 ga back there as it had terrible cycling issues. The nicest single shot 20 ga. Browning ever made. Anyways it came back somewhat working. When it started really acting up again I took it up to EPPS and turned it into a new M-70.
I wish I would have known what has been written here about making the fine adjustments as I would have tried things myself or tried to have found a competent M-12 smith. That 20 ga was a lovely gun, shot a lot of pheasants with, I hated to part with it, but it just would not work worth a dam when it came to cycling shells.
 
M12shooter said:
Dry firing a M12 can cause the tip of the firing pin to break off. Further, M12's will often work flawlessly with a broken firing pin for decades as I have seen this when servicing some "grandpas gun" for friends and acquaintances. Only stickler being the slam fire issue should the fractured tip protrude..which is along the lines of sasquatches and loche ness monsters in my opinion... New firing pin will run 40 or 50 bucks and be a hassle to get across the 49th unless you know or someone parting one out
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Well I guess I seen big foot. Almost cost a club member a foot. Yes only remember one occurrence but it can happen
Cheers
 
There's a lot of good looking M12's on here but some of the wood looks old and dry, If they were mine I would be applying linseed oil to these to save the wood for another 50 years. Am I Wrong?
 
3macs1 said:
Well I guess I seen big foot. Almost cost a club member a foot. Yes only remember one occurrence but it can happen
Cheers
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Yes anything possible I would suppose but nobody should close the action an any shotgun with the barrel directed in a dangerous manner. Same with the slam fire\disconnect criticism.
 
M12shooter said:
Yes anything possible I would suppose but nobody should close the action an any shotgun with the barrel directed in a dangerous manner. Same with the slam fire\disconnect criticism.
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And then there is real life
Ever have one of those barrel holders on the top of your boot we all used back in the day shooting trap and skeet
Now I think how stupid it was
Cheers

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I have one that I think is the "Heavy Duck" though need to sort the recoil pad. (Currently a hard, thin plate and should apparently be a red "silvers" pad).

Built 1955 I think

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You know, I haven't take the buttplate off. Though it isn't shaped to fit the stock so it could be a bit "interesting" what's under there... I will try and have a look in the not too distant...
 
3macs1 said:
And then there is real life
Ever have one of those barrel holders on the top of your boot we all used back in the day shooting trap and skeet
Now I think how stupid it was
Cheers

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if you shot skeet or trap, you would know that the action is open. it is only closed just before you call 'pull'.
 
Scrumbag said:
I have one that I think is the "Heavy Duck" though need to sort the recoil pad. (Currently a hard, thin plate and should apparently be a red "silvers" pad).

Built 1955 I think

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That is a very nice Model 12 brother . My late father owned one . Funny enough , he took it back to the UK in 1969 and sold it to a family friend , I wonder lol .
 
^ that is a 'heavy duck' indeed (the receiver/barrel) :) It does seem to be missing the lead weight and recoil pad.

You can definitively feel the lead weight in the stock they added to compensate for the heavier recoil than a normal M12.

You can also have a look at the comparison I started here:

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1-trident-1 said:
if you shot skeet or trap, you would know that the action is open. it is only closed just before you call 'pull'.
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Yes but I have seen guys "gun down shooters" toss one in on the way off the foot also when their turn comes off as I am sure you have at one time or maybe I just shot with some dangerous dudes :)
Cheers
 
Heavy Duck Models 12 have two bored holes in the butt. One is for the stock bolt and the other is filled with lead. In the ones I have owned the slug was poured in molten and will never fall out. That stock is from another model 12 standard 2 3/4' gun. Heavy Duck stocks with red pad and slug intact are rare (as spares) and expensive.

Darryl
 
Thanks Madtrapper. Guess I shall just have to shoot it as is. Though I doubt I'd be putting big 3" loads through the gun anyway
 
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