Winchester Model 100 Value?

There was a Model 100 in .284 value thread a few months ago. The OP ended up listing for $850, which was significantly more than anybody in the thread recommended it was worth. It was in similar shape to yours and hadn't had the recall. The price eventually was lowered to around $700 but I'm not sure exactly what it sold for. It took a couple weeks to sell. The estimates of $500-600 for your rifle are low unless you want to sell it in 10 minutes. If it was me, I'd list around $700 for just the rifle and see what happens. You can always lower your price. Your scope and extra mag add value as well. You could probably get an extra $125-$150 if you sold those items in separate listings. Just don't make the mistake of the last poster with this question, which was to believe that every Model 100 in .284 is a rare collector item. .284 commands a premium over the .308 but to be worth above the $700 range it'd have to be in exceptional condition.
 
There was a Model 100 in .284 value thread a few months ago. The OP ended up listing for $850, which was significantly more than anybody in the thread recommended it was worth. It was in similar shape to yours and hadn't had the recall. The price eventually was lowered to around $700 but I'm not sure exactly what it sold for. It took a couple weeks to sell. The estimates of $500-600 for your rifle are low unless you want to sell it in 10 minutes. If it was me, I'd list around $700 for just the rifle and see what happens. You can always lower your price. Your scope and extra mag add value as well. You could probably get an extra $125-$150 if you sold those items in separate listings. Just don't make the mistake of the last poster with this question, which was to believe that every Model 100 in .284 is a rare collector item. .284 commands a premium over the .308 but to be worth above the $700 range it'd have to be in exceptional condition.

An accurate assessment I would say. I would suggest listing your gun at $699. with the intention of accepting $650. One in .308 would sell for $500 to $550 with the extra clip. Yours being in .284 with the extra clip is worth a bit more. These rifles are not collector items, maybe some day but not to-day. Yours is in reasonable shape but not great shape. It is worth only what some one is willing to give you for it and in my opinion that will be $650 at best. The old Weaver scope is irrelevant, you could leave it on, or take it off.
 
no mechanical changes between pre and post 1964.
very early models 100 and 88 had a different ''recoil lug'' installed.
has been suggested the early rear lug was a cause of stocks cracking....
rarest .358 win,then .284 /.243 and most common .308.
the ''carbine''models are very scarce an any calibre.
worth whatever a buyer will pay.
 
If I recall correctly gunrunner100 can do the firing pin replacement, as per the recall. Might want to pm him. He's in Canada.

BTW I agree with lilsurfer. The extra mag alone is probably worth at least $125. The rear lug design that was causing problem with stock cracking at the wrist was the clover leaf design which your Model 100 doesn't have. Check for cracks in the wood in the magwell - wood is thin there.
 
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I might as well chime in. IMHO your 100 has little or no collector value given the condition of the wood. For me the scope adds no value - take it off - install the filler screws and sell it separately. And as a shooter from a practical perspective the .284 caliber does not offer much choice in factory ammo so unless you re-load you're very limited in ammo choice. Most shops don't carry it at all. The extra magazine is a plus because it's obvious from the photo that both mags are type 4 which after several alterations the type 4 are the only ones that feed reliably. Much is often made of the desirability of the pre-64's over the post. In actual fact both the 88 and the 100 went through a number of tweaks and changes and it was only in the late pre-64's that Winchester finally got everything right (save and except the firing pin in the 100). Again in IMHO a very late pre-64 in excellent condition would be more desirable than a post of equal condition, otherwise a post 64 would be more desirable than an early pre-64 - if you follow me? For me I would not at all be interested in purchasing your rifle. If it was in excellent condition, let's say 95% then $800 to $900 (with the extra mag) would be reasonable. As it is $650 to $700 tops (with the extra mag). On the other hand a post-64 model 88 in .284 in excellent condition - (95+%) would easily command $1500 to $2000. The next step would be a model 88 .284 post-64 carbine in 95% condition would buy you a vacation in the Bahamas.
 
I just did a firing pin recall on a Win 100. Easy peasy but expect to wait apprx 6 to 8 weeks for the new firing pin to come from the us. I've not done one before and found it to be a medium type job for me. Most people if mechanically inclined could figure it out.
 
When these new warranty pins where first installed , the shop was ,,,,, William R. Long Gunsmithing
in Cobourg , Ontario , 905- 797- 2700.
I know , because I remember a friend taking his 100 there for the new pin. Some years ago ??
In the last 2 years I have used that shop for Browning parts ,,,,,,,,, so still in business.
I would call him 1st. ,,,,,,,,, Frank
Long hasn't been in Cobourg in a good long time. Last time I visited, he was operating out of Bewdley. Not sure if he's still there though.
 
Just wondering if there was a pre and post 64 version of the 284 rifle?

The pre-64s had cut checkering on the forend and tang cheeks.
The post 63s have an attractive pressed basket weave pattern like the gun in the photos on this thread.
I always liked the post 63 wood artistry better.
The 100s were made from 1961-73 and I believe there was a pre-64 284 Win - could be wrong.
 
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The model 100 was the prettiest mass produced hunting semi auto rifle ever produced.
Beside a 100 the Remington 74XX series rifles and the BARs were plain janes.
We owned 3 of them over the years and accuracy was fair to middling.
They were dependable if kept meticulously clean and loaded with ammo that generated enough gas pressure to operate the action.
 
Determining if the firing pin has been changed by trying to rotate it will work in most cases unless the original firing pin is battered and stuck in the bolt.
Best way is to visually inspect it.
 
here you go
Cheers
If you have any questions concerning this notice, call Winchester Product Service 1-800-852-5734 or write to Winchester Firing Pin replacement Notice, PO Box 10 Cottage Hills Illinois 62018 Attention Product Service Dept.

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The difference in the old firing pin and the new one is as follows. The old replaced style, was totally lathe tuned (round). While the new recall style is similar in lathe turning on the front and back, but in the front midsection it has two flats milled, one on each side. This makes the center section stronger. Also replaced is the bolt sleeve lock pin (firing pin guide) which was made to accommodate this different shaped firing pin

Part number for the new parts are, firing pin =1391ND, bolt sleeve locking pin =1491ND

The word was at the time this recall was in process was that if the firing pin would break at the mid section and still remain in the gun as two pieces, the possibility of a premature discharge before the bolt was locked was possible. This apparently was caused by the firing pin tip (now not having a retracting spring) to be stuck forward, and thereby slam-firing upon chambering.

The responsibility for the recall apparently was on Olin, as they were the parent company at time of manufacture. Olin set up regional recall centers at three established US gunshops. There was a manufacturing delay in the replacement firing pins, and a backlog occurred, also some collectors did not like the idea of shipping their guns long distances. Olin then also authorized other gunshops to make the required alterations. Upon completion of the recall, the shops were to test fire the firearm and to stamp an assigned letter on the inside top of the receiver as seen thru the magazine well with the bolt retracted. The letter “B” represented Bolsa Gunsmithing, “L” was Lefever, and “N” was for Nu-line Guns. The letter “X” apparently was for all the other independent shops. However this identification information did not get communicated to some of the smaller shops at the start of the project. The only way to tell if the gun as been modified, if the ”letter” is not present, is to take the barrel & action out of the stock, remove the trigger guard assembly and the try to rotate the firing pin by twisting it. If it does NOT rotate, then the firing pin recall HAS been performed.

You can check online by entering the serial number to see if the recall was done,They are still honoring the pin replacement. I had mine done about five years ago by Wisechoice sporing goods, just south of Gravenhurst on.
 
I just did a firing pin recall on a Win 100. Easy peasy but expect to wait apprx 6 to 8 weeks for the new firing pin to come from the us. I've not done one before and found it to be a medium type job for me. Most people if mechanically inclined could figure it out.

I understood that one has to send them the old pin before they will send you the new one, am I right?
 
There was a Model 100 in .284 value thread a few months ago. The OP ended up listing for $850, which was significantly more than anybody in the thread recommended it was worth. It was in similar shape to yours and hadn't had the recall. The price eventually was lowered to around $700 but I'm not sure exactly what it sold for. It took a couple weeks to sell. The estimates of $500-600 for your rifle are low unless you want to sell it in 10 minutes. If it was me, I'd list around $700 for just the rifle and see what happens. You can always lower your price. Your scope and extra mag add value as well. You could probably get an extra $125-$150 if you sold those items in separate listings. Just don't make the mistake of the last poster with this question, which was to believe that every Model 100 in .284 is a rare collector item. .284 commands a premium over the .308 but to be worth above the $700 range it'd have to be in exceptional condition.

I believe I was the one that ended up buying that rifle. It is significantly in better shape than the one shown in this thread. I don't recall the exact price, (thinking it was just under $700. shipped and insured) it was a good deal, I got 2 full boxes of factory ammo with it (Value of $73. per box). Will sell the scope and see through mounts at the next gun show for a few peanuts. I contacted gunrunner100 and he didn't have a firing pin on hand and didn't know when one would be available. I wasn't too keen on mailing the metal off and waiting an unknown time. The 100/284 is now topped with a Leupold and bore sited awaiting to be zeroed in and will be going hunting with me this Fall. A local gunsmith told me he has seen a few that have had the pin update that had more problems than ones that did not get the update. I will consider getting the update in the future if and when a pin is readily available.

EDIT: OP, if you want to sell one of those mags for a bonus price, give me a shout, aye;)!
 
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If you're buying one for nostalgia and looks fine but don't pay any more than $500.
There are better, more accurate semi auto hunting rifles out there like the BAR.
The Remington 74XX and 75XX jamomatics our friends have owned and commented on are for want of a better word "crap".
We had a 7400 in 308 Win that couldn't keep 2 bullets in a 5" circle at 100 yards whether factory or hand load.
 
Would think the pre 64 version would go for a bit more than a post 64 version.It seems in all things Winchester,where the pre and post versions are available the pre sells for more than the post.

Which is the rifle we are talking about in this thread?With the basket weave ,I would say post 64.

As stated by other posters the pre 64s have cut checkering on the forearm grip and tang while the post 64s have the pressed basket weave pattern.
 
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