Winchester Model 101

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Hello friends I'm wishing to purchase a Winchester Model 101 O/U 12 Gauge.
Can someone please tell me where I can purchase one? Thank you.
 
Are you looking for the old original 101 or the new 101? I think the Gun Dealer in NB has new ones and maybe a used one. Epps has them as well and Accuracy Plus has a couple of the older versions used.
 
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Redsoilreaper said:
Are you looking for the old original 101 or the new 101? I think the Gun Dealer in NB has new ones and maybe a used one. Epps has them as well and Accuracy Plus has a couple of the older versions used.
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Thank you buddy! Looking for the newer made ones because heard the oldies have some design problems?
Will look at the vendors you suggested, thanks again!
 
There is no similarity between the older guns and the new guns, aside from the name 101. The old 101's were very well made, but havent been in production for 25 years. I recall there being some problems with the new 101's when they first came out, cant comment on them otherwise.
 
cosmic said:
There is no similarity between the older guns and the new guns, aside from the name 101. The old 101's were very well made, but havent been in production for 25 years. I recall there being some problems with the new 101's when they first came out, cant comment on them otherwise.
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Hi really? Thanks for the info. Really new to shotguns I am, will do more homework.
 
I'd be interested to hear of design flaws in the old ones. I have 7 from 410 through to 12g and have never had an issue aside from firing pins being warn from use or the vent rib popping on my dedicated 20g bird gun 1/2 way up the barrel. Personally I'd stick to the old ones as my impression is they were far better built then those of now but to each their own. Miruko Japan built old 101s, also like at the Charles dalys model 500s which are also out of miruko Japan if you can locate one.
 
hammering hank said:
I'd be interested to hear of design flaws in the old ones. I have 7 from 410 through to 12g and have never had an issue aside from firing pins being warn from use or the vent rib popping on my dedicated 20g bird gun 1/2 way up the barrel. Personally I'd stick to the old ones as my impression is they were far better built then those of now but to each their own. Miruko Japan built old 101s, also like at the Charles dalys model 500s which are also out of miruko Japan if you can locate one.
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I thought it was Olin-Kodensha that built 101’s and Miroku built the Browning’s.
 
hammering hank said:
I'd be interested to hear of design flaws in the old ones. I have 7 from 410 through to 12g and have never had an issue aside from firing pins being warn from use or the vent rib popping on my dedicated 20g bird gun 1/2 way up the barrel. Personally I'd stick to the old ones as my impression is they were far better built then those of now but to each their own. Miruko Japan built old 101s, also like at the Charles dalys model 500s which are also out of miruko Japan if you can locate one.
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The old ones were made by Olin Kondensha. And I to would like to know of these supposed design flaws that made the older 101's a gun to stay away from. I shot a pair of 70's vintage 101's one in 410 the other in 12ga. Put thousands upon thousands of rounds through them and did absolutely nothing to them except clean them. I never had one single mechanical issue with either one. In those days you either shot a Win 101 or a Browning as the quality was equal. It was a rarity to have had an issue with either brand. If you had the money you had a Kriegoff, or the cheaper knock off a Remington 3200. Then the Berettas came along, very good OU's as well. The Win 101's stopped being made and were resurrected for a short time under the Classic Double name. I bought a Classic Double skeet version, still have it. The only mistake I made was not filling the back of the pickup truck with CD's when I was down at Jacqua's in Ohio picking it up. They had piles of brand new CD's in boxes piled up on the show room floor like cord wood.

I can not comment on the quality or reliability of the new 101's as I have never layed a hand on one. But do not ever shy away from the old 101's as who ever told you they have design flaws and should be avoided is completely full of sh!t.

Since your now doing more research look at Ruger Red Labels. An very strong and well made OU. A utilitarian gun for sure, nothing fancy. I had one for pheasant hunting down on Pelee Island, as it was 1000% reliable. They will take a lot of field abuse and still look like new after cleaning. The dog even sat on it several times during breaks pushing it into the clay bean fields. You just wiped off the mud and kept hunting. They also are not made any more and command a good dollar on the used market now.
 
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mrgoat said:
The old ones were made by Olin Kondensha. And I to would like to know of these supposed design flaws that made the older 101's a gun to stay away from. I shot a pair of 70's vintage 101's one in 410 the other in 12ga. Put thousands upon thousands of rounds through them and did absolutely nothing to them except clean them. I never had one single mechanical issue with either one. In those days you either shot a Win 101 or a Browning as the quality was equal. It was a rarity to have had an issue with either brand. If you had the money you had a Kriegoff, or the cheaper knock off a Remington 3200. Then the Berettas came along, very good OU's as well. The Win 101's stopped being made and were resurrected for a short time under the Classic Double name. I bought a Classic Double skeet version, still have it. The only mistake I made was not filling the back of the pickup truck with CD's when I was down at Jacqua's in Ohio picking it up. They had piles of brand new CD's in boxes piled up on the show room floor like cord wood.

I can not comment on the quality or reliability of the new 101's as I have never layed a hand on one. But do not ever shy away from the old 101's as who ever told you they have design flaws and should be avoided is completely full of sh!t.
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I thought the Remington 3200, like the Krieghoff was a knock off of the Remington model 32.
 
Westward1 said:
I thought the Remington 3200, like the Krieghoff was a knock off of the Remington model 32.
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The Remington 32 did come first, and was before my time. What I meant was the Kreighoff was considerably more expensive than the Rem 3200. Neither gun was of interest to me so I never educated myself to the finer points.
 
mrgoat said:
The Remington 32 did come first, and was before my time. What I meant was the Kreighoff was considerably more expensive than the Rem 3200. Neither gun was of interest to me so I never educated myself to the finer points.
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Sorriest thing I ever did was give up my 101 4 barrel set to buy a 3200. But it was the normal progression in those days
Mine had a ton of rounds through it and all I remember was breaking a small spring which was no big deal and I only had one receiver remember for all barrels
They were fine guns IMO and I still look for another 28ga from time to time
Cheers
 
I have both the Winchester 101 Ultimate Field and the Ultimate Sporting from Bass Pro, the Field is my regular skeet gun and has roughly 5000 rounds through it in the last year, the sporting shoot in competition mostly Both have been flawless. The differences are the regular models have Grade 3 walnut vs Grade 1 on BP version, high gloss vs matt, the grip cap as mentioned and the trigger blade and recoil pads are different. The BP version is $1000 cheaper. They also make a 101 pigeon grade trap that is quite nice, albeit a little light for a dedicated trap gun.
 
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