Winchester Model 1917

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Ok, so I have done some research on this gun (my dad's) and see that it is or could be an Enfield. Now all of the pics that I have seen of it on the net show it having a short barrel. My dad's is a longer barrel then the ones that I have found so I am a little confused if it is an Enfield or not. It is chambered for 30-06, has those funky stampings on the barrel, the one's that look like a circle with wings, think about 3 or 4 of them, and under the lever on the wood, there is a B engraved on it. Not sure what to make of this or what it might be. I can take pics if it would help. Any help in pointing me in the right direction on what exactly this rifle is would be great.

Steve
 
I will try and get some picks this week. From all the pics out there I thought the barrel had to be short. I will do some more diging on the 26" one on the net and see if I can get a pic that way too.

Steve
 
US Model of 1917 is one of my favorite milsurps.
This is my Remington
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and Winchester
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Ok I got some pics tonight. Some might be a little large. Let me know what you guys think.

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Here there is a "B" right on the wood.
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This one is hard to see but it has an "M" "VP" in a circle a triangle with a line disecting it and then what seems to be the letters "SNW"
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This one you cannot see at all but right under the bold handle at the bottom there is either a "W" or "M" depending on which way you are looking at it
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That's it for now. So what exactly does my dad have here?

Steve
 
That's it for now. So what exactly does my dad have here?
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A $60 bubba special. If the Redfield peep was complete and in decent shape it would be worth more then the rifle.
Un-altered VG-EX M17's run $300-$400 most places.
 
Hitzy said:
A $60 bubba special. If the Redfield peep was complete and in decent shape it would be worth more then the rifle.
Un-altered VG-EX M17's run $300-$400 most places.
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How sad... at least it doesn't look like as much of an abortion as some Bubba's I've seen.
 
Don't let these guys give you to hard of a time. Those rifles used to be cheap and plentiful, makeing them into decent hunting rifles was quite a lucrative industry for many years and in some cases still is. These rifles were well made and finished with good wood in the stocks. Whoever did this rifle, did a good job. Maybe early to late 50s vintage and style of sporterisation. If all of these rifles had been left as is, they wouldn't be worth nearly as much as they are now. On the other hand, without these so called "bubbas", we wouldn't have the shooting and hunting fraternities or rights that we enjoy at the moment, even at the restricted levels they are now. Don't turn your noses to far up when you see one of these fine "bubbas", there is a lot that can be done to dress them up, such as in the case of this one and keep in mind that the temperament was different back in the fifties. That' a fine old rifle that you have there, it served your Dad well as a hunting rifle of fair accuracy and will serve you well for the rest of your life as well, maybe you can pass it on to a lucky son or daughter. Good for you Zorba. bearhunter
 
Good for you Bearhunter!

bearhunter said:
Don't let these guys give you to hard of a time. Those rifles used to be cheap and plentiful, makeing them into decent hunting rifles was quite a lucrative industry for many years and in some cases still is. These rifles were well made and finished with good wood in the stocks. Whoever did this rifle, did a good job. Maybe early to late 50s vintage and style of sporterisation. If all of these rifles had been left as is, they wouldn't be worth nearly as much as they are now. On the other hand, without these so called "bubbas", we wouldn't have the shooting and hunting fraternities or rights that we enjoy at the moment, even at the restricted levels they are now. Don't turn your noses to far up when you see one of these fine "bubbas", there is a lot that can be done to dress them up, such as in the case of this one and keep in mind that the temperament was different back in the fifties. That' a fine old rifle that you have there, it served your Dad well as a hunting rifle of fair accuracy and will serve you well for the rest of your life as well, maybe you can pass it on to a lucky son or daughter. Good for you Zorba. bearhunter
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Thats a nice reply Bearhunter , I think you gave this feller' a much needed lift!...I only WISH I had a hand me down rifle from my Dad!
Regards ,
Bob
 
My first centrefire rifle was the P14 version. The forestock was cut down when I got it. I had the action "ears" milled down and a weaver K2.5 installed by Ellwood Epps in his old Clinton store. Very accurate. Shot my first deer with it when I was 16. They were cheap and plentiful in those days and it was cheaper to make a "sporter" out of them than to buy a used one. Traded it for a .257 Roberts when they brought in the .275 maximum regulation for varmint hunting. We did lots of things then that are politically incorrect now. BUT WE HAD FUN! And that's what it's all about.
 
P-14 & P-17's

I have a number of 14's & 17's but I can't stand to have them cut down. I have an arsenal restored P-17 Winchester, and Remington. I also have a number of P-14's actually one of each kind. The big problem when searching for good 14's and 17's is cutting the ears off the receiver. I have one new in the white P-14 barrel that is waiting to go on a selected 14 for restoration.
 
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