Winchester model 1984 30wcf DOM 1911 ?

[45C]

Hello,
A buddy got a Winchester model 1894chambered in 30 WCF Which was manufactured in 1911.
So would the model1894 made in 1911 have more value than the Model 94 made in 1955 ? Condition being equal.

 

[DGY]

Well I would think so, some might say a pre-64 is a pre-64 but I think if they are in the same conditions I would assume it would be worth a bit more especially to the right collectors!

 

[9.3mauser]

Yes, assuming condition is equal. Pre-war guns demand a bit of a premium, as do flat-band guns ( '46-48}. Features matter as well. Octagonal barrels seem to go for more than round rifle barrels, and saddle ring carbines seem to go for a bit more than the rifles.

 

[Mike Webb]

Yes, as mentioned pre ww2 94s sell for more generally speaking. Assuming the rifle shown has standard 26 inch barrel and crescent buttplate the only special feature is half magazine assuming it wasn't cut later in life. If there no dovetail for mag hanger under the front sight area likely original half mag often called a " button mag" by collectors.
Nice shooter or hunter not a lot of collector value, Grey gun, sanded wood.

 

[45C]

He’s asking $900

 

[NAA]

By production numbers, Winchester made 46,200 model 1894's in 1911 and 74,196 of the same in 1955.

Almost 1/3 more rifles made in 1955 than 1911. So, in theory, rarer may command a premium.

Also, is the 1911 mfg '94 a carbine or full rifle?

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NAA.

 

[tiriaq]

The magazine tube doesn't seem to extend past the end of the forend. Button mag? Altered? Could make a real difference in value.

 

[45C]

So I checked the serial # on another site and it lists it at 1906.

 

[tiriaq]

OK, shotgun butt, button magazine. If original might be special order. What are the sights like? Any refinishing?

 

[45C]

I’ll get the owner to send me a couple of pictures of the sights later on tonight

 

[Mike Webb]

That's original button mag, shotgun butt, I think. Can't see buttplate clear enough to tell if it's checkered over the whole surface. If so replacement butt. Early 1900s shotgun butt plates were smooth or partially checkered or made from black hard rubber embossed with winchester trade mark. Looking closely at forend wood where it meets metal, it has been oversanded. $900 is max value in my opinion.

 

[tiriaq]

Bore condition is also important.

 

[Mike Webb]

Especially if you're buying a rough or modified winchester as a shooter/hunter. Poor or worn bore is a deal breaker.

 

[45C]

Ya, I’m going to pass, to many unknowns for me.
Thanks folks