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Hi there. Was looking to get a little information for my father. He has a Winchester model 70 featherweight in .300wsm with wood stock that is about 8-10 years old. It wears a Leupold VXIII 3x9x40 scope in Leupold rings. It's in very good shape but there are a few dings from hunting on the stock, a marr on the outside edge of the barrel crown and another marr on the scope edge. He's trying to get an approximate value for the gun and scope combo, or just the gun. I don't have a great handle on values right yet but I was putting it at around $1100-1200. $700-750 for rifle and $400-450 for scope and rings. Is that in the ball park? Thanks for your feedback.

Wellsy
 
wellsy said:
Hi there. Was looking to get a little information for my father. He has a Winchester model 70 featherweight in .300wsm with wood stock that is about 8-10 years old. It wears a Leupold VXII 3x9x40 scope in Leupold rings. It's in very good shape but there are a few dings from hunting on the stock, a marr on the outside edge of the barrel crown and another marr on the scope edge. He's trying to get an approximate value for the gun and scope combo, or just the gun. I don't have a great handle on values right yet but I was putting it at around $1100-1200. $700-750 for rifle and $400-450 for scope and rings. Is that in the ball park? Thanks for your feedback.

Wellsy
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You can buy that combo brand new for under $1200.

Rifle -$500, scope $300 (if its a VXII. If its 8 or 10 years old, its a Vari-XII and that would drop the value to $250 tops)
 
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Thanks for the info. I was a little high I guess. I'm fairly certain it is a VXIII. I was just going from memory and haven't seen the gun in about a year.
 
wellsy said:
Thanks for the info. I was a little high I guess. I'm fairly certain it is a VXIII. I was just going from memory and haven't seen the gun in about a year.
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There is no VXIII 3-9x40, only VXII or VariXII.

Epps has new featherweights for $781, P&D has new VXII for $419.
 
jethunter said:
Don't forget to add the tax when you're comparing a dealer price to a private sale, otherwise you're misleading yourself.
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Just like a new car or truck,a new gun depreciates once it leaves the dealer. Even if really nib,it's worth 25% less or so. Taxes are something you can't recoup. Now make this a used gun with marks the value is even lower,especially for a widely available version.
 
jethunter said:
Don't forget to add the tax when you're comparing a dealer price to a private sale, otherwise you're misleading yourself.
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It would take more than tax savings to make me buy a 10 year old rifle with a dinged up stock and old model scope, for the same $$.;)

Not saying I wouldn't buy it, just not for the price of new, tax or no tax.
 
blargon said:
You can buy that combo brand new for under $1200.

Rifle -$500, scope $300 (if its a VXII. If its 8 or 10 years old, its a Vari-XII and that would drop the value to $250 tops)
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X2 with blargon's price assesment on the model 70 and scope info/details. For what it's worth, in the last years edition of the Blue Book of Gun Values the suggested list on that particular model 70 is between $750.oo at 100% condition to $260.oo for 60%.
 
Woodbeef said:
Just like a new car or truck,a new gun depreciates once it leaves the dealer. Even if really nib,it's worth 25% less or so. Taxes are something you can't recoup. Now make this a used gun with marks the value is even lower,especially for a widely available version.
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I agree, a NIB used rifle depreciates, and thats what makes buying used so attractive. No tax, no depreciation. I'd argue your 25% number is on the high side but it doesn't really matter and was not the topic of discussion.

My point was that taxes are paid when you buy from a dealer. Up to 15% depending where you are located. So if the rig costs $1000 from a dealer, the real cost is actually more.

Taxes are not paid when you buy privately.

If you are going to compare pricing on a used rifle with a dealer rifle, you need to include all the true costs if you're going to make an accurate comparison. That was my point.
 
blargon said:
It would take more than tax savings to make me buy a 10 year old rifle with a dinged up stock and old model scope, for the same $$.;)...
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Whaat? Why not??;) It's practically a tradition on the EE...

I wasn't disputing your valuation, just saying that buying new means taxes and one should consider that in the equation.

As for my valuation of $1000 - i'm kinda disappointed you didn't notice that i quaified that estimate by saying IF it was in excellent shape and IF the scope was a VXIII. So obviously I wouldn't put that value on a "10 year old rifle with a dinged up stock and old model scope". :p
 
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jethunter said:
Whaat? Why not??;) It's practically a tradition on the EE...

I wasn't disputing your valuation, just saying that buying new means taxes and one should consider that in the equation.

As for my valuation of $1000 - i'm kinda disappointed you didn't notice that i quaified that estimate by saying IF it was in excellent shape and IF the scope was a VXIII. So obviously I wouldn't put that value on a "10 year old rifle with a dinged up stock and old model scope". :p
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So then why post a price that has nothing to do with the OP's rifle in question?
 
Thanks for all the input. I'll pass on the info and take a look at the gun next time I'm over at his house to see just what scope is on it. I think he may have the receipt too and then I can see for sure how old it is. Again I was just going from memory.
 
Woodbeef said:
So then why post a price that has nothing to do with the OP's rifle in question?
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Jezzuz - I didn't see any pictures of the rifle, did you? I could assume the condition, or I can tell someone what it is worth in excellent condition, and it shouldn't take Einstein to determine that a lower condition will fetch a lower value.
 
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