winchester model 94 30wcf value

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i have a friend that has lost his uncle and he was given a bunch of rifles one of them is a saddle ring peep site 30 WCF winchester it looks like it was made in 1905 according to the serial number
Can any of you gun collectors out there give me a honest value on the gun the blue is ok the wood is good but has scratches on it functions good any information would be appreciated thanks
Should he want to sell it i will probably purchase it from him and put in my collection if not it will go up for sale on the CGN site thanxs
 
I am not a Winchester collector. I see Win 94, pre-64, in 30-30, pretty regularly posted on EE asking in $600 range - no idea what they actually sell for. One would think there might be premium to add for the age, if made in 1905? But, the actual, real condition of the arm is everything - buggered up screw slots, wood sanded down below metal, deep scratches, attempts to "fix" finish, all will take money off the table for someone serious about getting a "collectable" rifle. But it only takes one buyer, with money in hand, to make a sale. So without any pictures, and nothing more than your description, I would place the value between $350 and $1,000, if it is in "average" condition. From my very limited references, I am not certain Winchester provided their rifles with Winchester made aperture sights. If that "peep sight" is an original "climbin' Lyman", it might approach the value of the rifle, by itself.
 
^^^ yeah, need good pics. "blue is ok"- original or refinish? Same with the wood. Peep sights were unusual for saddle ring carbines of that era, so that makes me suspicious. Is the open barrel sight still there or has it been lost? Front sight original or replacement?

Too many questions, not enough info.
 
Condition is everything. potashminer is pretty close although his low end might be too low. It's hard to imagine a functioning pre 64 mod 94 going for $350.

Being a Saddle Ring Carbine will add value if it's still in good enough shape to be collectible.
 
Condition is everything to a collector... an accurate description including the condition of the bore and quality pictures greatly help an online guess as to value.

"the blue is ok the wood is good but has scratches on it" is a meaningless description.
 
Thanks guy the gun function and cycles well the bore is shiny and the gun itself is in very good condition the butt stock is original and has scratches on it the fore stock i believe is the same and has scratches on it the bluing is somewhat faded and the sight is the original on it I hope this gives you more to go on i will try to post pictures on here i don t know how to get them on here as photo shop has closed down i guess thanxs for all your help thanxs
 
Figured I'd jump in here instead of starting a new thread as it appears the OP might be done with this post. I have a Pre 64 manufactured in 1949 based on serial number that I inherited from a Great Uncle a while back. I don't hunt and it bothers me to think this thing will just be a safe queen until I leave this earth, at which point no one in my family will likely have any idea what it is so I have decided to sell and have no idea the value. Overall it is in what I think is really good shape with the one exception that the blue on the mag tube is worn off in several spots on both sides. Bore looks good and I took it to the range on my last range trip and shot 3 rounds you could cover with a quarter at 50 yards.

Any help on value would be appreciated.

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OP has been in contact and he and a buyer decided what his was worth. But for this 1949 - the pluses to me - screw slots appear to be good - if someone was into the rifle, they at least had good tools. Loading port looks not terrible - no serious scratches, etc. Front sight hood still with it. Negatives, for me - sling swivels, to start with - and then rear one should be about 3" from butt if going to insist on having them; stock looks shiny - varnished? Butt fit at metal on hand grip - has stock been sanded down to be smaller than metal? Unknown - bore condition - the fact that it fires is good, that some rounds landed close together is good, but that can all occur with a dark, pitted bore - I have several rifles that do that. So if pressed for a range of price, I would say $400 to $650. I can't see the wood fit on left side of the butt stock to the receiver. Someone might want to pick up a 1949, because it is his or his Dad's birth year, or parent's wedding year - who knows - sometimes those kind of things are significant to a particular buyer...
 
I see a couple 06's WIN 30-30 on another site listed for $1800 + $2100.

Nice looking WIN Chilidip

1949 30-30, blueing & wood looks good. I'd say if the bore is good,

Could fetch ya $800-$1100 on today's market.

Maybe more if someone wants it bad enough.
 
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Asking price versus selling price - My limited experience, admittedly long before Covid - Bought a 1958 - Sep. 2017 - $600 mailed to me; Sold it in Oct 2019 -$590 mailed to buyer; Bought a 1955 - Feb. 2019 - $550 mailed to me - it is my keeper. My total experience of what Win 94 30/30's actually change hands for, at least since the 1970's, when I had bought a new one and sold it a few years later...
 
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