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I have a #1 Mk.III* Enfield 1913 and would like some input to the windage adjustment on the rear sight. Is it common to find this or is it a rare bird? I can send pics but only to email addy if necessary..

I have watched the EE and have not seen another on any of the guns exchanged.
 
Theoretically, the III had a windage adjustable rear sight; the III* didn't. Sometimes you will see an adjustable sight on a III* which has been rendered non-adjustable. Does the sn on the bottom of the sight leaf match the rifle?
Generally speaking, windage adjustable sights are less common, because many were altered or replaced.
 
I just looked at the sight. It has a number starting with an F. the sight number does not match the serial #, which starts with a J. The sight is not inoperable but is easily adjusted side to side and is a 2000 yard sight.. It has been opened to a .410 - 2 1/2" shell. Electric pencil writing on the wrist band states that info..

This is my first real Enfield and am curious about them.
 
Does the rifle have RFI markings indicting that it is an Indian conversion? Single shot? Wooden block pinned in place of the magazine? Many of the Indian muskets have been reamed to allow use of commercial .410 ammunition. Some rifles were smoothbored in the UK to allow collectors to hold them on a shotgun certificate.
 
Where would I find these RFI markings? I know about the Ishapore .410 as they used the expanded .303 casings . There is no cut-off nor wooden block. The mag has spring and follower. Whether it will work with the .410 shells is another story. I will try at the range next trip.
Stamped on top of the barrel and action is 410.
 
The Indian marks will be on the butt socket.
If the gun was rebored and rechambered in the UK, there will be appropriate proof marks on the barrel.
 
No extra marks on the butt socket. Just the electric pencil markings.

I do not want to strip this gun after all it was put together by louthepou and I will not chance the damage i might do. I do know that the original stock (sportered) apparently had no Issy screw.
 
I wondered about that when I had the rifle in pieces.

Indeed, the only indication that this was not a .303 Enfield was the "410" electro-penciled on the butt socket. I can't remember the markings on the barrel and receiver, but from what I recall nothing in particular was seen in that spot.

The rifle was sporterized, with a mag missing the spring and follower.

The rear sight, I can't remember if there was a number on it, and if there was, if it matched. I thought there was something kind of funny keeping a rear sight with windage adjustment on a .410... :)

Lou
 
If you want to switch it for a standard sight PM me. I'll do it at no cost....you cover the postage both ways. I got some very nice non adjustables. Just pop the pin and it should just lift out. Reverse to install. Ron
 
Hi Louis....I wondered that myself too. never noticed it when I sent it to you. i guess the sight was just there and went where the rifle went. Could it be possible it was a sniper or perhaps a shooting team rifle before it was bored out? No one really noticed the difference. maybe cantom can shed some light on this as he was a former owner before me. And he knows the owner previous to him.

i had noticed that the other rifles in .410 that I saw pics of , had a mag cutoff that slid over the mag to convert the gun to single load. mine has no provision for that cutoff option. Just an empty mag, but as you know the followers and springs can go missing as the second gun had them missing too. And it was a .303.

On top of the barrel between the rear handguard and action is stamped 410 and about an inch onto the action again stamped 410. behind the rear sight is stamped HV. And the only thing stamped on the left side of the butt socket was 39.

Under the serial number on the right side of the action is a arrow pointed up and left side a crown over GR crossed banners and P. Next to it is a crown over 21 and this over either a 3 or 8 ( very small)

Right side of barrel behind handguard is a crown over a B and over 51

Any of this help? I am a novice here.
 
rgg.....I will keep the gun as is. It is a replica of a Great Uncles rifle he carried during WWII. He was a guard at a camp in Alta. ( He was in WWI and too old to reenlist in WWII so he was enlisted as a home guard and served at wainwright.

He and i used to hunt partridge with the gun when I was a youngster and he promised me the gun in his will but it "disappeared". Louthepou was so kind to refurb this gun for me as a replacement and I will not alter it one iota.
 
No problem Winnipeg Toymaker....just trying to be helpful. Glad to see you got a replacement for the one that strayed. Cheers, Ron
 
Any help at all is greatly appreciated. I just want to know more about these great guns. Shooting them is going to be the ultimate. i guess i will have to find books and read more.
 
tiriaq said:
Theoretically, the III had a windage adjustable rear sight; the III* didn't. Sometimes you will see an adjustable sight on a III* which has been rendered non-adjustable. Does the sn on the bottom of the sight leaf match the rifle?
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One of my mk III* has the windage adjustible rear sight. And all the numbers match, on all parts. To bad someone masacred it with a screwdriver!:mad:
 
Here's the bottomside of a windage adjustable sight that was on a 1916 Mklll* RSAF Enfield , which was pinned through the adjustment screw . The knob was long gone . The sight's serial number matched the receiver/bolt/barrel.
1916sightpins.jpg


A fully functional w.a. rearsight
Mklllrs.jpg


I also have an , all matching , 1918 BSA Mklll* Brit civi converted and stamped .410 - 2 1/2" , re- BNP'd to 3 1/4ton . Singleshot , standard Mklll* rearsight.
Interesting that it has the Fulton Regulation stamp ontop the barrel knox and the stocks are still cork bedded with barrel supports , so at one time it was used for targetshooting.
The mag , (which is actually for a Savage No4) has the ears ground off and the follower is spotwelded into place as a stationary loading ramp.
I've had alot of fun with this .410 , including some bunnie hunting.
I got 5" groups using slugs at 75yd , but I think that could be tightened up some with abit more shooting time.
 
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