Windage and Elevation Question -Bushnell EliteTactical

Mr. Jeffery

Mr. Jeffery

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Gentlemen,
Correct me if I am wrong and please forgive if this reads as painfully stupid.... but.....


on the turrets: elevation has bidirectional arrows.. one way says "up" and the other says "dwn" yeah?
Windage has bidirectional arrows also... (duh..) one says "L" and the other "R" yeah?
Both turrets have a zero line under them and on the body
and the turrets themselves have increments. In this case Im using MOA and its 1/4 moa per click.

Okay if youre not slapping your head ... yet.... this ought to send you over the edge.

If you shoot your gun and its shooting too far to the right, you make adjustments to the left or in the "L" direction... yeah? @ 100yds youre 3" out and the scope is 1/4 moa adjustments that would be... 12 clicks to "L"... yeah?

Likewise for elevation.. 3" off center and low would be 12 clicks in the "UP" direction... yeah...

Now to let the fireworks fly.. This all sounds fairly straight forward but there is a reason for this DMB*$$ question.

Let me know if this is all correct. I'm either losing my mind (whch is very possible) or..... somebody at the factory needs to be fired.

cheers!
 
Yes that is how it should work and once you are zeroed at 100 you can loosen the allen screw (slip the caps ) and adjust the numbers so that the 0 is at the ref line on the elev and windage knobs.
 
Well fur chits and giggles..........it's flyday........right?
Yer handle says "Mr" but could it infact be "Ms, Miss oar Mrs"?

Me wifie'azz thet right tightie leftie lewse issue.

Kuld bee yer normal afterawls?
 
uh.... let me check... gimme a sec.....

(stands up, unzips pants... reaches in.. its warm... not flat... very little room for hand... pulls hand out... zips up pants.. sits down again and types: )

Nope Im Sure.. its Mr.!

japanese logic... "Swing the rifle to the right...."???

Nato,
does /do your turrets have incrimental numbering? like 0 - 11?
 
Mr. Jeffery said:
Figured so.. YaY!!! Im still sane and competant!!!

on this scope... right clicks take you left and left clicks take you right... wtf? am I missing something here? or like I said... Does someone need a new and easier job?
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You are talking about the bullets point of impact after adjusting correct ? And not the direction the reticle pattern is moving in a bench rest ??
 
chalkriver said:
You are talking about the bullets point of impact after adjusting correct ? And not the direction the reticle pattern is moving in a bench rest ??
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Yes.. if Bullet hits off to the right 1"..Then, 4 clicks to the left... ??? this seems like common sense. If the bullet hits 1" low... then, 4clicks in the "up" direction... but this isnt the case.. IF
I am hitting to the right and I click to the left. I will be two inches from the center of the target. To get back to the center I would now infact have to click 8x's to the right....

its seems backwards.... is there some logic and reasoning I am missing?
 
I suspect you are over thinking. Whatever is marked up or right will move the bullet
In that direction.

Now, this is where people manage
To confuse themselves. In order on shoot higher the crosshairs are lowered, and to shoot right they are
Moved left. Where this becomes plain is bore-sighting and walking crosshairs to
Bullet holes. For
The most part it's easier to
Not think about it.
 
Mr. Jeffery said:
Yes.. if Bullet hits off to the right 1"..Then, 4 clicks to the left... ??? this seems like common sense. If the bullet hits 1" low... then, 4clicks in the "up" direction... but this isnt the case.. IF
I am hitting to the right and I click to the left. I will be two inches from the center of the target. To get back to the center I would now infact have to click 8x's to the right....

its seems backwards.... is there some logic and reasoning I am missing?
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So we are on the same page, the direction on the scope turrent moves the bullet POI in the direction desired.

If a shot lands right 1" of the center of the bull, turn windage knob clockwise as viewed from the side 4 clicks (1/4 min click)... done

If a shot lands low 1", turn the elevation turrent counterclockwise as viewed from above 4 clicks... done

These directions are for the standard NA/Japanese rotations... If your scope is opposite to this, then it is set up for "Euro" adjustments which would be really COOL!!!!

Jerry
 
okay now my mild dislexia is really setting in.... (dislexics UNTIE!!)

here:


Rifle is now zero.. within .5 MOA @ 100m (as long as I can hold her steady.....)

Im going to go BACK to the range and mess with her knobs.. (she likes it when I do that....)

I'll go 3 full points left and then swing back to zero and swing 3 full points right.. I will report back then...

Dislexia sucks btw... or maybe its just that I am getting old. I dont know...
Right now... I am under the impression that 3 full clicks to the right will take the bullet LEFT.. (3 full clicks.. 3 full minutes or 12 subclicks)
 
Is it just the windage turret that is backward? On the elevation turret if you turn it toward the "UP", do the point of impact goes up?
 
wcat said:
Is it just the windage turret that is backward? On the elevation turret if you turn it toward the "UP", do the point of impact goes up?
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as I cut through the fog of recollection inside my head.. yes I believe that this is in fact the case. I will have to go back out and confirm. I was pretty excited the other day and well. Lots of absent minded trigger pulling going on.. not enough concise thinking about what I was doing. This rifle and scope combo is fairly new to me.. Ive discharged it a grand total of exactly 176 times so far and the only "ideal" conditions were two days ago whilst at a range. On that day, I got to sit with her and "twist her knobs some".... , but yeah.. Ive had a couple of wtf moments with her as I learn what makes her tick. Its a nice rifle to shoot. Seems reasonably accurate for an over the counter under $2K gun.. its not a hunting gun nor is it a target gun.. Its a service rifle and its got a heavy barrel. Thats why I bought it.. I was looking for something I wouldn't have to worry about heating up too much... and have fun. All I need now is another 900 meters to play with.

If any one Island side in BC knows some place appropriate.. Kudos for sharing.

I wll be back...

as for "points" Now Im off to confuse myself some more! I will reword.... "12 clicks" or 3 MOA...

Cheers!
 
Dogleg said:
Don't go bringing "points"into it, that's a vernier sight thing. If you think you're confused now, points will make
your head explode.;)
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LoL!!! Ironically.... Just what I was looking for! "vernier tang sights"

I met a fellow out at the Mission gun club a numberof years back.. (actually a client of mine and the conversation swung around to firearms one day....) He shoots 300 plus meters with Iron sights.. I recall seeing him do this and I was pretty impressed. Even at a km on the general Volks range in Chilliwack... So its always been something Ive thought about without actually knowing wtf I was thinking about.. Thanks for the "buzzword" I am now that much closer to a goal. All I need are better eyes!

Cheers!

FYI "vernier" is the word used to describe calipers simply because "verynear" didnt sound as convincing.......... LoL!!
 
I'm using a vernier sight on replica rolling block in 45/70 with black powder.Got
out to 650 yards on my steel buffalo target so far, well on track for the half mile
goal this summer.
 
Now yewse gartzs me confused..............?

When I drive I put me left hand on the 12 o'clock place on the steering wheel.
I wish to go left, I wind'er c/c/w.
T'ther way, well, jest that.
 
Mr. Jeffery said:
okay now my mild dislexia is really setting in.... (dislexics UNTIE!!)

here:


Rifle is now zero.. within .5 MOA @ 100m (as long as I can hold her steady.....)

Im going to go BACK to the range and mess with her knobs.. (she likes it when I do that....)

I'll go 3 full points left and then swing back to zero and swing 3 full points right.. I will report back then...

Dislexia sucks btw... or maybe its just that I am getting old. I dont know...
Right now... I am under the impression that 3 full clicks to the right will take the bullet LEFT.. (3 full clicks.. 3 full minutes or 12 subclicks)
Click to expand...

Scope markings are correct so likely, it will work just fine. The test you propose will be a good lesson.

Put a bullet center of target... dial knob 3 mins in whatever direction makes you happy. Take another shot and that bullet hole should be 3 mins in that direction.

Move both knobs and POI will be on a diagonal per the units you adjust. Shooting on a target grid will make things very simple to keep track of there you landed vs where the scope says you should have landed.

I suspect, all will be well.

Jerry
 
Good luck and happy shooting on that 900 yd lob, Dogleg. I am jealous....! Most we've got around here (in a safe situ) is 600m.

Jerry,
That's exactly what I am going to do. I'll head back to the range on Monday I think. Pop off another fifty rounds 'n' see what happens.. I should have a handle on it by then. I hope. We'll see. Looking forward to the recoil therapy regardless of outcome!
 
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