Windex and corrosive ammo…

Just thinking now of combining peoples past experiences and knowledge, would it be best to poor a bit of Windex into boiling water? I have never tried this but it seems like combining the best of both worlds.
 
Even tho it seems unnecessary my cleaning process goes...soak all metal parts in Windex, run Windex patches through the barrel and gas tube (in the SKS). clean all parts with Windex until the patches are no longer black.
Then I send boiling water over all metal parts of the gun and let them dry. Once they have dried I use solvent on everything, dry, then oil each moving part. I read somewhere around these forums that oiling the gas tube is a no-no so I avoid that from now on...although I did oil the tube for a year with my Norinco SKS there wasn't any rusting. So if you want to oil er up I don't see why it would be a problem.

This process may be excessive but, a) i have the time b) using every method guarantees no rusting.

If your so concerned about rusting why not use every method instead of choosing one then being unsure of yourself after?
 
I will be receiving my first 2 rifles shortly - two Mosin Nagants. Could someone tell me what my entire cleaning process should entail from beginning to end? I get the first thing I should do is boiling water and/or windex, but then what do I do exactly?
 
http://www.denner.ca/weapons/BritishWWII/index.html

BCII-35 ENFIELD CLEANING FUNNEL- This item was used to funnel boiling hot water through the barrel to facilitate cleaning of the bore. Very useful when considering corrosive ammunition.
This item is in new condition, as in it has not been used before. However, it was found in a wooden crate in the back of a store. The funnel is old, so there are the odd spots of dirt, dots of rust on it, very small amount. However the funnel is in excellent condition.
I just found an interesting article on this exact funnel in the "Canadian Journal of Arms Collecting" Vol.33 No.3. The article says that:
Cleaning Funnels: An UnCommon Lee-Enfield Accessory- by P.M.R. Breakey. "The recent discovery in Quebec of a small quantity of original Canadian WWII period rifle cleaning funnels has prompted this article. Proper cleaning of the rifle is necessary as military cartridge primers contain chemicals, potassium chlorate or mercury fulminate, which during firing recombines as a corrosive salt residue distributed along the barrel. The salts combine with water (humidity in the air) to immediately ruse in the barrel. A typical round funnel will not fit the Lee Enfield action and the spout is too short to reach the chamber from the rear of the action. The subject funnel was made to remedy that problem. "
The article is 2 pages long and includes a few photos.
The very side of the funnel indicates that its use would be relegated to the barracks or behind the lines as no soldier worth his salt would carry one in his pack. If so, it certainly would not be around for long and in itself may explain the scarcity of this interesting item of military history. $20.00

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I will be receiving my first 2 rifles shortly - two Mosin Nagants. Could someone tell me what my entire cleaning process should entail from beginning to end? I get the first thing I should do is boiling water and/or windex, but then what do I do exactly?

Take a look at this article:

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/corrosive/index.asp

I don't use Ed's red, but simply lubricate the rifle with CLP once I'm done cleaning.

Personally, I like to do a quick cleaning of the rifle at the range with windex (wipe down boltface, clean the gas piston, and a few sweeps of the barrel with a windex soaked patch followed by a dry one, or windex on a bore snake. Further to corrosive salts, it just makes cleaning once you get home that much easier if you begin the cleaning process while the rifle is still warm from shooting.

When I get home, I again flush the barrel with boiling water, and in the case of semi-autos like my CZ, flush those parts of the gas system that might be difficult to clean with just a windex soaked patch. I then lightly oil/CLP the appropriate parts once dry.

Take a look again the following day, just to be on the safe side, and reclean any spots where rust may begin to develop. Some militaries like the Wehrmacht (sp) directed their soldiers to clean the rifles daily for three days after firing to get any corrosive salts or residue that sweat from the rifle over a couple of days. A first thorough cleaning, followed by inspections of the rifle however should suffice. It's probably better to be a bit over zealous at first, until one is comfortable with their process.

Frank
 
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