Winnipeg Hunter Missing
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I would try that one if I didn’t think my wife would spend a fortune shopping on me.
Something doesn't add up for sure. CTV news reports "He said he was unable to follow his tire tracks back to where he drove in from because the path was too dense and he was driving a heavy-duty truck".
That doesn't even make sense. I would think if the "heavy duty truck" can make it down that trail, a person on foot could as well...
I guess it would depend on some things. It's not like he asked to be looked for...
My wife thought it was weird that media reported that he wasn't reported missing until he failed to show up for work. You'd think his wife would report him missing when he didn't come back after a planned overnight hunting trip. Maybe it means nothing, or is incorrectly reported.
I really dont know what to think. A 6-7000lb truck is going to leave a trail that you can follow back the the road, and in southern mb I don't think its possible to be further than 15-20 miles from civilization (and that's a stretch). It was also reported his truck was brand new. I highly dbout he drove far off the trail with a brand new truck. Never mind he had a fire and he could hear the search planes, throw your damm spare tire on the fire and you would see that 5 miles away
Good point.
Maybe we are reading too much into this...but there has to be more to it than we have been officially told.
All the "experts" tell us that if we become lost, we should stay put until rescued. Sounds like the sort of general advice that is given to people with zero common sense just to keep them from getting killed in stupid and innovative ways. Maybe he took it too much to heart?
Brutus
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I've heard off and on rumours that the Canadian government was considering billing of false 'rescue calls' in our high arctic for outdoor adventure travellers who were afoot on the ocean pan-ice. (personal emergency beacons accidently set off and notifying RCC via SAR-Satelite)
Imagine getting a bill in the mail for maybe 24-30 plus hours of aviation fuel costs for a CC-130 Hercules air transport and crew wages??
That should make a rightly thinking person pause for a moment and think twice before doing something questionable.
Rockrabbit
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My first thought was what supplies did he stop to get before heading off in the bush? Please fill in the rest..........
todays update.....
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/lost-man-cannot--explain-survival-182938471.html
BRAD Lambert can't explain why he's not dead.
People will just have to accept his incredible tale of survival, the 46-year-old Winnipegger said Monday night.
Lost in the southeastern Manitoba bush for three weeks -- no heat, no fire, no food -- Lambert survived on melted snow and groundwater sucked through a hollowed-out ballpoint pen.
"There's been some skepticism of my account," Lambert said from his Southdale home Monday night, where he's been reunited with his wife and almost-seven-year-old son. "I would have been (skeptical) myself.
"I had the will and the reason to keep fighting. I think that once people see the location of my vehicle, the skeptics will be appeased."
It's still a mystery where his truck is, though Lambert said he thinks he's given the RCMP enough clues for them to find it deep in the bush today.
Lambert set out Thursday, Nov. 15, for a day of hunting, but changed his mind about where he'd hunt and about returning home the same evening. Instead, he kept driving southeast of Marchand along Whitemouth Lake Road in remote country between Sandilands and Northwest Angle provincial forests, intending to sleep in his truck.
The last house he remembers seeing was in La Labre, some 80 kilometres before he turned off the road and started following snowmobile and quad trails wide enough for his truck. Wide enough, until he encountered fallen trees and slid into an icy bog that trapped his truck up to the floorboards, at least seven kilometres into the bush.
"I had my hunting rifle, my hunting clothes," said Lambert, who ran his engine for five days before the fuel ran out, and the battery and his matches and lighter soon after.
For the first few days, "I'd build smoky signal fires and traverse two to four kilometres down different trails looking for signs of life, to no avail," he said.
"It'll be shown quite incredibly difficult to see from the air and impossible from the ground," he said.
He found a clearing and tried using a mirror and a flashlight to signal aircraft. Lambert had always heard that people lost in the woods should stick with their vehicle and not try to retrace their steps, because they're liable to get hopelessly lost.
"I had a nylon bag packed with pine boughs and cattail matter" that served as a blanket, while the truck sheltered him from the wind. But for more than two weeks, he had no fire.
"I didn't sleep very much at all. My sleep was hampered by a need to recirculate blood in my feet and hands," he said. "What was going through my head was ranging from panic to rescue scenarios to thoughts of never seeing my son again or my wife again, or my family."
He had his rifle but saw no animals.
Finally, last Friday, Lambert knew his energy was nearly gone.
"I decided the rescue crews were unable to see me, through no fault of their own. It was breaking the No.1 rule not to leave your location."
With a now-or-never decision, Lambert went sometimes west, sometimes south, from trail to trail, often breaking his own trail through bush. He stayed in the woods Friday night, then broke trail through dense bush some more on Saturday. Finally, after maybe 12 kilometres, he stumbled onto a road where a passing ice fisher found him.
The man -- Lambert does not have permission to release his name -- drove him first to Marchand, 80 kilometres southeast of Winnipeg, to phone his wife and get something to eat, and then to his home in Southdale.
Despite his ordeal and the loss of 40 pounds, Lambert said he spent only one night in hospital.
"My feet are not in the greatest shape -- they're very, very swollen. No frostbite, no hypothermia. I have some lack of sensitivity in my extreme fingertips," said Lambert, who won't return to his job as a corrections officer until January.
He's extremely grateful to everyone who searched for him.
And he tells other hunters never go alone, but do take blankets, food, survival gear and extra fuel and try to stay within cellphone range.
Winnipeg Police Service spokesman Const. Jason Michalyshen said Monday police are still looking into the matter.
Lambert met Monday with the WPS missing persons unit.
"Our part in this is not complete, and we're just holding off providing any specific comments regarding the entire ordeal until we have a firm grasp on everything that has taken place," said Michalyshen.
He said police are "very pleased" that Lambert was reunited with his family, but officers "still have a job to do and an investigation to complete."
After Lambert went missing, police released pictures of him and his black Ford F-150 truck. The missing persons unit and RCMP search and rescue team, along with the Civil Air Search and Rescue Association (CASARA), had searched for Lambert from the air and on the ground.
Dwayne Logan, a Nesbitt-based instructor who teaches wilderness survival courses and disaster preparedness, said the top priority for someone lost in the bush should be to find safe shelter.
"You can only survive maybe as short as three hours without shelter if it's windy and you're wet," said Logan.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/lost-man-cannot--explain-survival-182938471.html
BRAD Lambert can't explain why he's not dead.
People will just have to accept his incredible tale of survival, the 46-year-old Winnipegger said Monday night.
Lost in the southeastern Manitoba bush for three weeks -- no heat, no fire, no food -- Lambert survived on melted snow and groundwater sucked through a hollowed-out ballpoint pen.
"There's been some skepticism of my account," Lambert said from his Southdale home Monday night, where he's been reunited with his wife and almost-seven-year-old son. "I would have been (skeptical) myself.
"I had the will and the reason to keep fighting. I think that once people see the location of my vehicle, the skeptics will be appeased."
It's still a mystery where his truck is, though Lambert said he thinks he's given the RCMP enough clues for them to find it deep in the bush today.
Lambert set out Thursday, Nov. 15, for a day of hunting, but changed his mind about where he'd hunt and about returning home the same evening. Instead, he kept driving southeast of Marchand along Whitemouth Lake Road in remote country between Sandilands and Northwest Angle provincial forests, intending to sleep in his truck.
The last house he remembers seeing was in La Labre, some 80 kilometres before he turned off the road and started following snowmobile and quad trails wide enough for his truck. Wide enough, until he encountered fallen trees and slid into an icy bog that trapped his truck up to the floorboards, at least seven kilometres into the bush.
"I had my hunting rifle, my hunting clothes," said Lambert, who ran his engine for five days before the fuel ran out, and the battery and his matches and lighter soon after.
For the first few days, "I'd build smoky signal fires and traverse two to four kilometres down different trails looking for signs of life, to no avail," he said.
"It'll be shown quite incredibly difficult to see from the air and impossible from the ground," he said.
He found a clearing and tried using a mirror and a flashlight to signal aircraft. Lambert had always heard that people lost in the woods should stick with their vehicle and not try to retrace their steps, because they're liable to get hopelessly lost.
"I had a nylon bag packed with pine boughs and cattail matter" that served as a blanket, while the truck sheltered him from the wind. But for more than two weeks, he had no fire.
"I didn't sleep very much at all. My sleep was hampered by a need to recirculate blood in my feet and hands," he said. "What was going through my head was ranging from panic to rescue scenarios to thoughts of never seeing my son again or my wife again, or my family."
He had his rifle but saw no animals.
Finally, last Friday, Lambert knew his energy was nearly gone.
"I decided the rescue crews were unable to see me, through no fault of their own. It was breaking the No.1 rule not to leave your location."
With a now-or-never decision, Lambert went sometimes west, sometimes south, from trail to trail, often breaking his own trail through bush. He stayed in the woods Friday night, then broke trail through dense bush some more on Saturday. Finally, after maybe 12 kilometres, he stumbled onto a road where a passing ice fisher found him.
The man -- Lambert does not have permission to release his name -- drove him first to Marchand, 80 kilometres southeast of Winnipeg, to phone his wife and get something to eat, and then to his home in Southdale.
Despite his ordeal and the loss of 40 pounds, Lambert said he spent only one night in hospital.
"My feet are not in the greatest shape -- they're very, very swollen. No frostbite, no hypothermia. I have some lack of sensitivity in my extreme fingertips," said Lambert, who won't return to his job as a corrections officer until January.
He's extremely grateful to everyone who searched for him.
And he tells other hunters never go alone, but do take blankets, food, survival gear and extra fuel and try to stay within cellphone range.
Winnipeg Police Service spokesman Const. Jason Michalyshen said Monday police are still looking into the matter.
Lambert met Monday with the WPS missing persons unit.
"Our part in this is not complete, and we're just holding off providing any specific comments regarding the entire ordeal until we have a firm grasp on everything that has taken place," said Michalyshen.
He said police are "very pleased" that Lambert was reunited with his family, but officers "still have a job to do and an investigation to complete."
After Lambert went missing, police released pictures of him and his black Ford F-150 truck. The missing persons unit and RCMP search and rescue team, along with the Civil Air Search and Rescue Association (CASARA), had searched for Lambert from the air and on the ground.
Dwayne Logan, a Nesbitt-based instructor who teaches wilderness survival courses and disaster preparedness, said the top priority for someone lost in the bush should be to find safe shelter.
"You can only survive maybe as short as three hours without shelter if it's windy and you're wet," said Logan.
I have hunted extensively in the location where he was lost and if you have any idea of what direction you are heading you should be able to walk out with very little trouble. It's not hard to figure out which way is South(the sun rises in the same direction every morning), which would lead him to many different roads. The worst thing he did was think that he should stay put.
