What's the most passes anyone has ever had to do with wipeout to take care of copper fouling? I bought a pre 64 model 70 in 264 win mag that was shooting all over the place. Decided to give it a good cleaning before I tried anything else. I'm on my sixth pass with wipeout with about 30 passes with a brush in between and the patches are still coming out bright blue after soaking for a day. Usually two passes is enough to take care of a lot of it.
Wipeout/copper fouling
- Thread starter emr333
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My experience is that it depends on the rifle. Generally a couple of passes will do it BUT older rifles who haven't had the fouling removed require more effort. I had a similar experience as you with a Model 1600 Husquavarna. Four sessions over two days and I still got fouling residue. My advice is just stick with it.
you will never get it to shot right again you better send it right to me don't pass go just head right to the post office I will give her a good home Dutch
If you are using a bronze/brass brush with Wipeout it will always indicate blue. Nylon brushes only...
I send a couple of short burst down a barrel with a tube stuck in the neck area, leave it 20 minutes and patch it out. That usually does it. If it doesn't do it again and leave it for an hour.. = done.
If it is really fouled or I am in a hurry I will use JB Bore Cleaning Paste for 40 or 50 passes on a tight bronze brush, replenishing and wetting with #9 part way through... patch dry and do 10 minutes of Wipeout.. = done.
I send a couple of short burst down a barrel with a tube stuck in the neck area, leave it 20 minutes and patch it out. That usually does it. If it doesn't do it again and leave it for an hour.. = done.
If it is really fouled or I am in a hurry I will use JB Bore Cleaning Paste for 40 or 50 passes on a tight bronze brush, replenishing and wetting with #9 part way through... patch dry and do 10 minutes of Wipeout.. = done.
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I never even thought about the brush causing the blue, that makes sense. I never used the brush until after the 3rd try with wipeout, I've never had to use a brush since I started using wipeout. I've got round 7 of wipeout in it right now so I'll patch that out tonight and try another round without a brush.
Thank you kindly, especially Dutch. Always looking to help a guy out!
Thank you kindly, especially Dutch. Always looking to help a guy out!
My .270 was manufactured in 1974, Dad purchased it for me second hand when I was 14, it was cleaned as per my dad's cleaning practices (a patch or 2 of G96 once per year). I don't think it was ever properly cleaned, and after the condition I found his .22's and shotgun in it was amazing they worked at all. I spent 2 hours scraping grey gunk out of that old Mossy's receiver. Let's just say that his firearms are the cleanest they've been since I've come onto this planet.
It took me 2 weeks and half a small can of Wipeout to get clean patches out of the bore of my .270. I was only letting it sit for about 12 hours at a time though, each night around 9 I'd patch and reapply, then again around 7AM before I left for work.
It took me 2 weeks and half a small can of Wipeout to get clean patches out of the bore of my .270. I was only letting it sit for about 12 hours at a time though, each night around 9 I'd patch and reapply, then again around 7AM before I left for work.
Ammonia really isn't a problem... I believe the 'problem' associated with ammonia use is that the bore is left so clean if it drys out, it is very susceptible to moisture and the problems associated with rust. In the case of Wipeout this is not a problem because there are additives in the product that if the bore were to dry out in places, the additive would prevent any rusting.
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How does KG-12 compare to BTE?
My most was about 10 I think, 3 in one day couple hours apart and that didn't work so one in the am turn barrel 90 and one in the pm turn again for 4 days.
That was my first rifle and shot quiet a few of the original Barnes X which I understand had some fouling issues. I actually stopped using it as my newer ones were more accurate, but all better now.
That was my first rifle and shot quiet a few of the original Barnes X which I understand had some fouling issues. I actually stopped using it as my newer ones were more accurate, but all better now.
I cleaned a rifle for a friend. It was a Winchester 70 Post 64 in 264 Win Mag.
I tried a number of cleaning methods, WipeOut being one of them (twice) but solvent, JB, and Sweets was also in the mix.
Considering it was not my rifle, I did my best and when it looked as good as it was going to get I went ahead and shot it.
It still shot 2" groups at 200 meters
This rifle probably saw at least 400 rounds through it. When the owner was asked about a cleaning regimen . . . never would be a safe guess!
I tried a number of cleaning methods, WipeOut being one of them (twice) but solvent, JB, and Sweets was also in the mix.
Considering it was not my rifle, I did my best and when it looked as good as it was going to get I went ahead and shot it.
It still shot 2" groups at 200 meters
This rifle probably saw at least 400 rounds through it. When the owner was asked about a cleaning regimen . . . never would be a safe guess!
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- West Quebec
Good video ..thanks for posting
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For me, cleaning my barrel properly after shooting copper clad bullets is essential to maintain accuracy seeing that I shoot mostly lead boolits from my rifles in calibers larger than 6mm. Any trace of copper fouling in the bore is detrimental to accuracy when shooting lead.
That said, I use Wipe Out regularly in my rifles with great results to prevent copper buildup in the bore. Now that we have a new powder called Hodgdon CFE 223 available to shooters, we can blast away all we want with copper bullets and not have any copper fouling at all. CFE stands for "Copper Fouling Eraser" and was developed for the US military. Tests prove it works perfectly to eliminate copper fouling, plus it's a good propellant for accurate loads in cals. from .22 on up to the big bores.
If you shoot jacketed or solid copper with this powder, then all you have to do to clean yer bore is use Hoppes # 9 or similar powder solvent to clean 'er. Better livin' through chemistry.
That said, I use Wipe Out regularly in my rifles with great results to prevent copper buildup in the bore. Now that we have a new powder called Hodgdon CFE 223 available to shooters, we can blast away all we want with copper bullets and not have any copper fouling at all. CFE stands for "Copper Fouling Eraser" and was developed for the US military. Tests prove it works perfectly to eliminate copper fouling, plus it's a good propellant for accurate loads in cals. from .22 on up to the big bores.
If you shoot jacketed or solid copper with this powder, then all you have to do to clean yer bore is use Hoppes # 9 or similar powder solvent to clean 'er. Better livin' through chemistry.
