without arguing whats the more popular round
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The only reason the 8x57 is so "popular" is because the Germans used it to lose two world wars. The fact that there are already millions of milsurp rifles that require feeding doesn't mean that it's necessarily the calibre of choice, any more than the millions of mosin nagants coming into the country make the 7.62x54R more popular than the .30-06 or .308. It's just that there are a lot of cheap rifles around that require ammo.
I'd like to know where all this 8x57 ammo was 15 yrs. ago, when the decent Norma ammo was scarce and expensive and I had to ration myself to make sure I could get through the season.
I finally had my 8x57 rebarreled to 7x57, partly because of the ammo, and just because it's the better cartridge.
I'd like to know where all this 8x57 ammo was 15 yrs. ago, when the decent Norma ammo was scarce and expensive and I had to ration myself to make sure I could get through the season.
I finally had my 8x57 rebarreled to 7x57, partly because of the ammo, and just because it's the better cartridge.
I've seen a lot more 7x57's out there in actual use, no doubt there are a ton of 8x57's around though too. I also seem to see a lot more 7x57 on the ammo shelves, locally anyways....
I have yet to encounter anyone who owns a 'potato thrower', though I am a little interested in getting one for myself.
I have yet to encounter anyone who owns a 'potato thrower', though I am a little interested in getting one for myself.
Mount Sweetness
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7x57 is the most Popular, there may be more 8x57 around but I would not call them 'popular'
As many have mentioned you need a clearer definition of popular..........quantity vs wanted.........quantity would almost certainly have to go to the 8X57........but to most of these owners it wouldn't matter what the cartridge was, they own the rifle cause it was surplus cheap. Even my brother in law has an old 8X57 and he doesn't know an 8X57 from an 8 ball..........If all these relatively high quality 98s had been in 7X57 you would see exactly the same numbers sold, but it wasn't, it was in the 8mm soooo.....As far as popular among knowledgeable riflemen the 7X57 is a runaway favorite and is probably offered now and has been offered, in more modern NA rifles than any other metric euro cartridge.
dgradinaru
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You cant compare a 8mm 195gr bullet @ 2700fts vs 175 gr 7mm 2500fts in power wise. I have used both calibers, but I lean on the 8mm mauser side since I can buy rifles in a better action for a good price. Mauser 98 vs mauser 93&95
Hmmmm, the 7x57 is the best all-around cartridge in the world? I don't think so! You mentioned the 308 Winchester, that's the best all around cartridge in the world. I never witnessed seeing the 7x57 used in shooting competitions, nor in all makes and models of rifles, nor does it shoot 165, 180 and 200 grain bullets, nor does it have inherit accuracy of any bullet weight, nor does it have, etc, etc.There's a reason why 7x57 sells so well... it's arguably the best all-around cartridge in the world. Accurate, efficient, reasonable recoil, history. What's not to like?
I consider 7x57 superior to 308 and 30-06.
Just as an aside, I am also a big fan of the 8mm and 9.3mm cartridges.
Yer say'n it wrong.
Try ........... tree oh ate..........
"Rigby" reminds me of the Beetles.
Johnn Peterson
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Yer say'n it wrong.
Try ........... tree oh ate..........
"Rigby" reminds me of the Beetles.
That would be 'Elenore' you speak of. Now, a new Moosie,
just for you Looky and this is from a Swedish outfit. The IKEA Moose that stands on guard in my reloading room.
Guess the 'cartooge' he's sitting on.
Johnn Peterson
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OH, that's something I'm missing!!
Two sets of outdoor wind chimes but no 'Moosie' weather vane. That'll give me something to hunt for.
Wait......, What? I don't follow the cause and effect relationship here.
One thing worth considering: How many North American manufacturers have actually chambered a sporter/hunting rifle in 8x57?
The only one I know of is Remington, their Classic 700, and that in one year only.
However, all have, at some time or other, chambered a sporter rifle in 7x57, some for many years running.
Since sales drive the market, it should be obvious which is the most popular round here.
Regards, Dave.
The only one I know of is Remington, their Classic 700, and that in one year only.
However, all have, at some time or other, chambered a sporter rifle in 7x57, some for many years running.
Since sales drive the market, it should be obvious which is the most popular round here.
Regards, Dave.
