WK-180C Gen 2 Ongoing Feedback
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DaveMachine
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- That one place with a cowboy complex
Not my rifle but I witnessed this at a service rifle event.
First match, owner brought a new to him rifle (gen 1) out to a match - not sure about round count. The rifle snapped a piston in two. Borrowed a rifle for the remainder. Was mailed a new piston.
Second match, snapped the replacement piston maybe 30 rounds in. He brought out a borrowed gen 2 and finished the match but with some hiccups along the way - soft ejection and a few stove pipes.
First match, owner brought a new to him rifle (gen 1) out to a match - not sure about round count. The rifle snapped a piston in two. Borrowed a rifle for the remainder. Was mailed a new piston.
Second match, snapped the replacement piston maybe 30 rounds in. He brought out a borrowed gen 2 and finished the match but with some hiccups along the way - soft ejection and a few stove pipes.
DaveMachine
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- That one place with a cowboy complex
Double tap.
Needs a trigger. I understand that the drop in triggers aren’t as easy to install vs. The component type? Anyone confirm?
Canadian made trigger would be nice.
Correct not all drop ins work. Try contacting Kodiak to ask for a list of those they know will fit in. I just fitted a component trigger so all went fine.
Needs a trigger. I understand that the drop in triggers aren’t as easy to install vs. The component type? Anyone confirm?
Canadian made trigger would be nice.
Which rail covers are those? They're nice.
Just for clarification, what is considered "Gen 2" or how would you know which version you have?
This is great information...but I'm not exactly sure I could identify some of these parts ie "extractor pin" and "gas block screws"...anyone care to take a photo to help me (and perhaps others) with this.
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This is great information...but I'm not exactly sure I could identify some of these parts ie "extractor pin" and "gas block screws"...anyone care to take a photo to help me (and perhaps others) with this.
theycallmeike
CGN Regular
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- Surrey, BC
Trigger tech drops in fine but you need to remove a bit of material off the bolt hold back bar. 15 seconds with a dremel tool and you're good to go
Generation 2 guns are any ones more recently made purely by Kodiak after their split from Wolverine. They should all have the threaded charging handle, and many suppliers are optioning them with replacement quality stocks and handgrips. Likely any reference to Wolverine has been removed from the chassis. Other then that, no one has mentioned other changes in this thread. Perhaps some one with a pre and post divorce version could do some side by side pics?
Just for clarification, what is considered "Gen 2" or how would you know which version you have?
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This is great information...but I'm not exactly sure I could identify some of these parts ie "extractor pin" and "gas block screws"...anyone care to take a photo to help me (and perhaps others) with this.
The PDF manual you can find online has a labelled parts map
I guess I would say the "Gen 2" changes mostly focus on:
- The bolt carrier of which the metallurgy was altered
- The cocking handle which was changed from a push in variant to the threaded variant
- Most recently the new bread slice which holds the guide rods and recoil springs
It's my opinion that out of the two factory original cocking handles the first was more reliable as it didn't break off. It did however shave off some of the inside of the receiver to no functional impact, however people didn't like it so they switched to the screw in type. People don't like that either as it breaks and now SpectreBallistics has produced a newer variant (time will tell if this is a worthy successor)
If I had to make a perfect for me variant it would come out of the box with:
- A functional non-breaking cocking handle and piston (lol)
- A trigger of circa 2-3kg
- An ambidextrous magazine release
- A bolt hold open/release catch
- A rear retaining pin (I think too much stress gets put on the front retaining pin by itself)
- An easy to remove handguard to allow for easier cleaning of the gas parts
- Easier to remove gas parts, the gas cup is a beast to get out sometimes
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The pistons and charging handles that continue to break needs to be resolved. It's not too much to ask that a rifle go 5000 rounds without breaking parts, but it's almost a guarantee with these rifles. Many of the owners I know are 2-3 charging handles in.
I don't care that the trigger it comes with is a hot mess, there are lots of better replacements and I'd replace it anyways.
I don't care that the trigger it comes with is a hot mess, there are lots of better replacements and I'd replace it anyways.
Agreed on the charging handle and piston.
In regards to the trigger I do care, because I think that the customer gets better value for money by having a better trigger to start with. Kodiak is making at a guess several thousand a year, which means that they can purchase a better trigger with better economies of scale. That's much better than the customer having to first pay for the awful trigger and then at no bulk advantage a better trigger.
