WK180-C range review. Update Post #2

And if it’s not??? I have a bunch of lar 15 pistol mags, all steel that I’m hoping will work in mine. I will be disappointed if they don’t work as they work great in my AR.
 
^^^^^^then it goes back for full cash refund (not in store credit ) and they will pay return shipping as well

Wolverine is a great company and stand buy their products 100% but what "notsorichguy" posted.....I don't know what to think
 
I expect it to work as it’s supposed to or there is a problem, if it only shoots 2” groups so be it, but it better not be a jamomatic, or fte or ftf.
 
And if it’s not??? I have a bunch of lar 15 pistol mags, all steel that I’m hoping will work in mine. I will be disappointed if they don’t work as they work great in my AR.

The LAR-15 didn’t not work great when fully loaded. I never noticed until the last range session because I would only load 3 rounds at a time when testing new handloads.
 
I expect it to work as it’s supposed to or there is a problem, if it only shoots 2” groups so be it, but it better not be a jamomatic, or fte or ftf.

Oh yes man I don't even care it's 3 to 4 inch groups at 100m for fvck sakes....I knew I wasn't ordering a precision rifle....but for basic mags that "everyone has" that aren't working.....Thats BS and is a big issue in my books
 
Hi Guys this is Steve from Kodiak Defence I assure you that if there are issues with your rifle when you get it. They will be fixed. We are in this business to give you the best quality product that we can. We will warrantee everything 100%.
 
The LAR-15 didn’t not work great when fully loaded. I never noticed until the last range session because I would only load 3 rounds at a time when testing new handloads.

How many times did you fully load it to 10 round capacity and do a mag dump.......

I buy rifles around what mags work in them.....in wolverines video.....the 10 round RRA LAR mags worked flawless.......and the beowolfs better work too or I will be hugly disappointed

This shouldnt even be an issue with the testing they have done

This shouldn't even be a coversation at the moment......we are only talking about the most important thing about the rifle

That all mags that work in an AR should work in this
 
Firstly let me be clear that we not have the time or resources to monitor all the threads on CGN. Before we delivered or had collected any WK180-C rifles I open a thread on the Wolverine page for customer feed back, we will monitor that thread and reply there.

Let me assure all our customers that we stand behind the WK180-C rifles and do not expect customers to resolve their own problems, be they real or perceived.

Warrant claims are going to be handled directly by Kodiak Defence. Before morning they will have a e-mail address dedicated for this, it will be: Service@kodiakdefence.com ( let me double check the spelling)

For the record, I personally fired 10 rds through the first 24 rifles using the Hera mags as supplied with our rifles. I had 4 rifles produce one failure to feed, I cleared it and fired an extra 5 rds with no problem. I do not see this as ad normal in a new rifle, please alow 500 to 1,000 rds to "run in" a new rifle.

One customer has claimed his rifle is "over gassing", I have seen no evidence of this in our test rifle "The Dog" as we now call her, she has fired approx 7,000 rds and I have abused her. I will post photos tomorrow of the bolt and back plate and they just show normal wear.

In these first production rifles we may have some bugs to work out but please talk to Kodiak before doing any home gun smithing that will void your warranty.

Again let me stress that customers of the WK180-C have our full support.
 
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How many times did you fully load it to 10 round capacity and do a mag dump.......

I buy rifles around what mags work in them.....in wolverines video.....the 10 round RRA LAR mags worked flawless.......and the beowolfs better work too or I will be hugly disappointed

This shouldnt even be an issue with the testing they have done

This shouldn't even be a coversation at the moment......we are only talking about the most important thing about the rifle

That all mags that work in an AR should work in this

I loaded the up twice and usually the first 2-3 rounds of each mag would jam. I switched over to PMAGs and didn’t have a problem.

 
I loaded the up twice and usually the first 2-3 rounds of each mag would jam. I switched over to PMAGs and didn’t have a problem.


Thanks for the video and the amazing review i appreciate that!

Thanks to Steve from Kodiak for the reply

And a huge thank you to Wolverine......just didn't like what a few others have said about mags not working and got all pumped up without thinking of the initial "break in period "

And i totally hear you on the 750 round to 1000 round break in.....

My rifle will see 1000 rounds the first week out

Can't wait and I know you guys stand by your product and warranty 100%
 
The reason why the LAR-15 were jamming was because they don't tilt the ammo up when they are fully loaded. With the magazine sitting lower in the receiver compared to other AR-15s, makes the round hit the barrel extension. I showed pictures of this in post #85.

Here is a jam from a fully loaded mag of American Eagle, the tip of the bullet catches the edge of the barrel extension.

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Here is a loaded PMAG and fully loaded LAR-15. Notice the third picture how much higher the the round sits in the PMAG.

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I stripped 5 rounds out of the LAR-15


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The reason why the LAR-15 were jamming was because they don't tilt the ammo up when they are fully loaded. With the magazine sitting lower in the receiver compared to other AR-15s, makes the round hit the barrel extension. I showed pictures of this in post #85.

Here is a jam from a fully loaded mag of American Eagle, the tip of the bullet catches the edge of the barrel extension.

Good news, I solved this problem well over 10 years ago with the original AR180B. Check the FAQ.
 
We shouldn't have to add material to our magazines for the rifles to function properly. If the mag sat higher in the receiver, it wouldn't be a problem.

Ya no $hit.....adding "material to mags" gimme a break......in wolverines video the LAR mags were flawless.

Could it just be your rifle?

Also did you happen to try the 10 round polymer mission first tactical mags?

And I know those 10 round hex mags are no longer allowed in Canada ......but I know some got thru
 
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Ya no $hit.....adding "material to mags" gimme a break......in wolverines video the LAR mags were flawless.

Could it just be your rifle?

Also did happen to try the 10 round mission first tactical mags?

Notsorichguy was having tons of problems with his mags so I assume it’s not.

No I didn’t.
 
Hi Guys this is Steve from Kodiak Defence I assure you that if there are issues with your rifle when you get it. They will be fixed. We are in this business to give you the best quality product that we can. We will warrantee everything 100%.

Firstly let me be clear that we not have the time or resources to monitor all the threads on CGN. Before we delivered or had collected any WK180-C rifles I open a thread on the Wolverine page for customer feed back, we will monitor that thread and reply there.

Let me assure all our customers that we stand behind the WK180-C rifles and do not expect customers to resolve their own problems, be they real or perceived.

Warrant claims are going to be handled directly by Kodiak Defence. Before morning they will have a e-mail address dedicated for this, it will be: Service@kodiakdefence.com ( let me double check the spelling)

For the record, I personally fired 10 rds through the first 24 rifles using the Hera mags as supplied with our rifles. I had 4 rifles produce one failure to feed, I cleared it and fired an extra 5 rds with no problem. I do not see this as ad normal in a new rifle, please alow 500 to 1,000 rds to "run in" a new rifle.

One customer has claimed his rifle is "over gassing", I have seen no evidence of this in our test rifle "The Dog" as we now call her, she has fired approx 7,000 rds and I have abused her. I will post photos tomorrow of the bolt and back plate and they just show normal wear.

In these first production rifles we may have some bugs to work out but please talk to Kodiak before doing any home gun smithing that will void your warranty.

Again let me stress that customers of the WK180-C have our full support.

See, as usual dealing with Wolverine is a no risk endeavor. Just don't go trying to fix it yourself then expect them to fix what you farked up. Contact them first and relax with a nice wobbly pop while your rifle gets a day in the spa.
 
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