Wm Muir and Co. 1864 US...found this at my Dads place

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Found this cleaning up at my fathers place. It states 1864 behind the hammer, Windsor Lock and Co. CT and has a US and an eagle on it....
Yeah, i know the picture is crappy. I didnt want to even wipe it off with any chemicals or anything....figuring just to leave it alone till I find out a value and some history on it.
Should I clean it all up for sale, or leave it alone?...and what the heck is it worth?... If I should clean it up, what should I use on it?
It is full length and a muzzle loader...the picture is just of the action to help identify it.
 
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You will find it on page 460 of Flaydermann's 7th edition. There were 30,000 made and William Muir was a contractor supplying the US government in the recent unpleasantness south of the border. That explains the Eagle on the lock

cheers mooncoon
 
He lists the price as good condition 750 and fine condition 2250. That is for 1998 and prices have probably gone up some since then. However keep in mind that it is a US price and prices for civil war guns is substantially higher in the US than in Canada and also that from what I can see from your photo, your gun looks like it has been used hard and put away wet as the saying goes. I suspect out here the gun would be in the 500 - 600 range but that is a guess

cheers mooncoon
 
It is also an antique so sell it back to the USA and make a better $$$ for it. I would think there would be a ready market for it there. There may be some interesting info under that muck but cleaning it is a slippery slope as you can remove value if not done properly. Do some inquiring or research before setting a price.
 
thanks guys....upon cleaning off the cobwebs, dust, and dirt, it does not look as bad as it appears. The picture was not the best, and it was taken just as it was found. I had time last night to clean it up a bit, I will do some more research and see what I can find out about it...like, how the heck it found its way to us.
 
Flaydermann's 9th edition (2007) lists a price of $850 US for good condition and $2750 US for fine. It would appear from the photo that it would rate less than good condition. I have to agree with Dantforth that south of the border is the best place to peddle your long gun. If it was mine I would sell it as is and let the new owner worry about cleaning it.
 
HOT HOT water and mild soap will lift off any surface dirt. Rinse it all off. Then a thorough coat of machinery oil will reseal the surface. Don't use any gun solvents because they will evaporate.

The only problem with this method is it requires the gun to be disassembled to guarantee complete drying. Not recommended - again - unless you know what you are doing and any tool marks will reduce value.
 
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